Getting "Rid Of" your Aluminum Cans

/ Getting "Rid Of" your Aluminum Cans #61  
One other change that has impacted the economics of aluminum can recycling is the weight of the can. The effort to collect them remains the same but the weight of the can was about 3 ounces when they were first introduced and is about 1/2 ounce now.

Several years ago I watched a very well organized documentary about this. Down to studies showing how thin the can could be without you crushing it trying to get it open. Mega Bucks study. Very interesting. If you have ever encountered a can who's company went on the thin side of the diagnostics you understand.
 
/ Getting "Rid Of" your Aluminum Cans #62  
Several hundred years from now our landfills will be valuable mining properties.

:)

Bruce

If plastic is your goal.
 
/ Getting "Rid Of" your Aluminum Cans #64  
Several years ago I watched a very well organized documentary about this. Down to studies showing how thin the can could be without you crushing it trying to get it open. Mega Bucks study. Very interesting. If you have ever encountered a can who's company went on the thin side of the diagnostics you understand.

I always laugh... first the bottled water industry convinced people to buy tap water in 12 oz containers, rather than from the faucet. Then they made the containers so flimsy that you might wear your purchase, rather than drinking it.
I do buy bottled water though... in gallon jugs to keep in my trucks. I generally pay around 1$/gallon, which is less than what it costs for a 12 oz one serving bottle.
I used to refill those gallons several times, which is how I know how flimsy they've gotten.
 
/ Getting "Rid Of" your Aluminum Cans #65  


I don't think it was that way 10 years ago, things change. I do remember single serve plastic water bottles everywhere, not an aluminum can to be found. The devils in the details but the reason for most of these crazy laws favoring lemonade over coke is special interests. That's the point.

When you wonder, why this and not that, just follow the money.

Bought and sold.
 
/ Getting "Rid Of" your Aluminum Cans #66  
The devils in the details but the reason for most of these crazy laws favoring lemonade over coke is special interests. That's the point.

I'm sure what qualifies as a deposit can/bottle varies from state to state. In our neighboring state Vermont carbonated beverage containers are deposit, non-carbonated are not. Maine, our neighbor to the east requires a deposit on non-carbonated beverages too.
Maybe that's the deal in Oregon?
 
/ Getting "Rid Of" your Aluminum Cans #67  
I'm sure what qualifies as a deposit can/bottle varies from state to state. In our neighboring state Vermont carbonated beverage containers are deposit, non-carbonated are not. Maine, our neighbor to the east requires a deposit on non-carbonated beverages too.
Maybe that's the deal in Oregon?

If I'm not mistaken NH still doesn't have a bottle deposit. One of the radio stations (WTOS) has a live weather forecast every AM... and years ago Russ joked about buying in NH and cashing them in in Maine. I remember thinking that wasn't a wise thing to be advertising on radio... a while after that they had a similar conversation and it was very apparent that he'd been stepped on for his comment.
 
/ Getting "Rid Of" your Aluminum Cans #68  
If I'm not mistaken NH still doesn't have a bottle deposit. One of the radio stations (WTOS) has a live weather forecast every AM... and years ago Russ joked about buying in NH and cashing them in in Maine. I remember thinking that wasn't a wise thing to be advertising on radio... a while after that they had a similar conversation and it was very apparent that he'd been stepped on for his comment.

No deposit law in N.H. Some cans/bottles that are sold here are marked as deposit, some aren't.

I can see why the powers-that-be might frown on someone suggesting buying beverages out of state and redeeming the the containers in state.
 
/ Getting "Rid Of" your Aluminum Cans #69  
We always have been good about aluminum/glass/plastic recycling. There are new processes developed in Sweden that use steam to crack plastics back to their basic components, allowing the resulting materials to be used in manufacturing plastic items of the same high quality as the original.

A research group at Chalmers University of Technology, Sweden, has developed an efficient process for breaking down any plastic waste to a molecular level. The resulting gases can then be transformed back into new plastics of the same quality as the original. The new process could transform today's plastic factories into recycling refineries, within the framework of their existing infrastructure.
​The fact that plastics do not break down, and therefore accumulate in our ecosystems, is one of our major environmental problems. But at Chalmers, a research group led by Henrik Thunman, Professor of Energy Technology, sees the resilience of plastic as an asset. The fact that it does not degrade makes it possible for circular usage, creating a true value for used plastic, and therefore an economic impetus to collect it.

We should not forget that plastic is a fantastic material it gives us products that we could otherwise only dream of. The problem is that it is manufactured at such low cost, that it has been cheaper to produce new plastics from oil and fossil gas than from reusing plastic waste, says Henrik Thunman.
 
/ Getting "Rid Of" your Aluminum Cans #70  
We always have been good about aluminum/glass/plastic recycling. There are new processes developed in Sweden that use steam to crack plastics back to their basic components, allowing the resulting materials to be used in manufacturing plastic items of the same high quality as the original.

A garbage incinerator at Brooks, north of Salem, Oregon, has been in operation for decades. It reduces plastic and paper products to ash, generates electricity, and the recover metals out of the ash.

Energy from Waste Facility
 
/ Getting "Rid Of" your Aluminum Cans #71  
I'm still shaking my head on the one individual's comment. I can't believe anyone really thinks that way. The price of you buying a drink should be impacted by the amount of money you make!?!?! Thank you to the wise poster who noted that the smarter ones in society will always find a way to profit off those less so. Around here there have been many articles about the people being arrested for "selling" their welfare cards for cash. Drug addicts don't crave food and their cards won't get them what they want. There was one guy that was buying CASES of water bottles from a store with his welfare card, going around back and DUMPING the water. He would then take the bottles back in to get cash.
 
/ Getting "Rid Of" your Aluminum Cans #72  
I also miss the time before NY had a deposit on cans. We would collect cans and crush them. This saved on storing and allowed us to collect hundreds of pounds before turning them in. Now, you have to make sure the can's bar code can be seen or the machine won't accept it. There is one redemption place near us that does significant business. They bring in tractor trailers to completely fill up every week. It's horrible from an environmental standpoint to pay for shipping air! In NY, it's all about the money not the environment.
 
/ Getting "Rid Of" your Aluminum Cans #73  
One other change that has impacted the economics of aluminum can recycling is the weight of the can. The effort to collect them remains the same but the weight of the can was about 3 ounces when they were first introduced and is about 1/2 ounce now.
And now routinely I'm finding that cans easily bust in heat or cold and make a mess.
 
/ Getting "Rid Of" your Aluminum Cans #74  
I'm still shaking my head on the one individual's comment. I can't believe anyone really thinks that way. The price of you buying a drink should be impacted by the amount of money you make!?!?! Thank you to the wise poster who noted that the smarter ones in society will always find a way to profit off those less so. Around here there have been many articles about the people being arrested for "selling" their welfare cards for cash. Drug addicts don't crave food and their cards won't get them what they want. There was one guy that was buying CASES of water bottles from a store with his welfare card, going around back and DUMPING the water. He would then take the bottles back in to get cash.

He is from Canada, that explains it all.
 
/ Getting "Rid Of" your Aluminum Cans #75  
It might be the only way to have some "rich" people be environmentally responsible. Hit them in the pocketbook. Like in Germany, traffic tickets are based on your income. Otherwise rich people speed with virtual impunity.

Besides. as far as th cans go, you have to think for a minute, engage brain. It's only a higher DEPOSIT.

Kills me, Lady friends brother inlaw visits (to do manual labor) a few weeks ago. Asks if we want Tim Hotons (Coffee) We say no. Why would we? We have perfectly good coffee in the house. So he brings it anyway, and all the cups are double cupped! Some people just don't give a crap about their environmental footprint. One Tim Hortons paper cup should cost $2.00!
 
/ Getting "Rid Of" your Aluminum Cans #76  
Getting "Rid Of" your Aluminum Cans

I’d like to share my way of recycling cans.

This is true and come to think of it, I’ve been doing this for over 20 years!

I tend to drink beer in cans. And save them after living in a couple of states that did the return deposits on them.

So I let them stack up to a couple of garbage bags full and off to the redemption center I go. Usually get around 20-25 bucks on a trip.

I then carry that money over to the little mom and pop store by the redemption center and buy lottery tickets. Of course I get the power ball.

My reasoning?
My ex wive(s) always said my drinking would keep me from ever amounting to anything.

When I ever do hit that ol lottery, I’ll be on their doorsteps to prove to them my drinking DID pay off!

I would have quit it (the plan not the beer), But I hit a thousand bucks a few years ago! So I keep plugging away at it.

Lenny
 
/ Getting "Rid Of" your Aluminum Cans #77  
I don't hardly ever buy any lottery tickets, but I did use the five dollar bill from my 9.80 worth of beer and liquor empties to buy a ticket today.

An X-Mennonite friend one described lotteries as a TAX on the Stupid. At least it's voluntary.
 
/ Getting "Rid Of" your Aluminum Cans #78  
No deposit law in N.H. Some cans/bottles that are sold here are marked as deposit, some aren't.

I can see why the powers-that-be might frown on someone suggesting buying beverages out of state and redeeming the the containers in state.

In Ca. the aluminum cans are stamped with a Ca. crv. code. Anything without it will be processed as scrap for a lower price.
 
/ Getting "Rid Of" your Aluminum Cans #79  
I have a can crusher that I don't use for soda can recycling as apparently they don't want can's crushed. Sucks because they could take up far less volume in storage.

Out Beer Stores will even take cans shredded by a lawnmower if they look like they repressent one can.
 
/ Getting "Rid Of" your Aluminum Cans #80  
If plastic is your goal.

Not sure of the details but, don't they harvest methane from land fill.

They used to burn it.

I remember driving thru Gary Indiana before interstates and you could see the fire, especially at nite.
 

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