Fighting 'Solar Farm' Installation

[Hay Dude]

Yeah, but he doesn’t have to mow around windmills If he doesn’t lease out his land. It’s his choice, so what is he complaining about?

Imminent Eminent?

JPMorgan CEO suggests government seize private property to quicken climate initiatives

JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon floated the idea of the U.S. government and corporations seizing private property to expedite achieving their climate agenda.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Hay Dude]

Is concrete impacts included in the supposed " enviro green" of windmills ? Concrete: the world's third largest CO2 emitter

Whoopsie Daisies!

So all those windmill foundations support the concrete industry???? The 3rd largest CO2 emitter in the world?

 

[Hay Dude]

This mornings picture of my abutter.

Guarantees me 22 more years of peace an quiet .

Land went from a 25000 tax bill as agriculture to a 200000 as a solar farm, which is another plus .View attachment 796137

With all due respect, I would prefer to not have to look at that.
But if you’re diggin that, more power to ya.

I prefer trees, fields, nature….you know, stupid junk like that…..

 

[Hay Dude]

I have seen both ways with new gas plants: conversion of coal plants, and abandonment of coal plants to build new gas turbine facilities.

But repurposing a plant is always cheaper than starting over. The RR coal cars can be replaced with NG tank cars. The people there can keep their jobs. No new land seizures or acquisitions. The NG is right under our feet. 1000 years of NG ready to roll.
American resources, people, infrastructure. All in-place and ready to go. All American jobs from fracking, to railroads, to power generation. No China. Think about it. No trillions in taxpayer confiscated subsidies needed going overseas.

No solar/windmills ruining 1000’s of acres of mountain tops and beautiful valleys. No dead birds, dolphins or whales, either. No pollution generating concrete needed, either.

Let’s save our country from being over run by foreign junk and sending trillions overseas.

 

[K5lwq]

I wish I knew for sure what some of the farmers in West Texas were getting in lease payments. But what I was told by someone that has a relative farming around the windmills is they made more money off the leases than they did from the crops.

I would think that it is close to correct as there is a lot of farmers taking advantage of the program. So if it benefits the farmer and it is his land he can do whatever he sees fit in my book. Hopefully they are doing well!

 

[Hay Dude]

I wish I knew for sure what some of the farmers in West Texas were getting in lease payments. But what I was told by someone that has a relative farming around the windmills is they made more money off the leases than they did from the crops.

I would think that it is close to correct as there is a lot of farmers taking advantage of the program. So if it benefits the farmer and it is his land he can do whatever he sees fit in my book. Hopefully they are doing well!

I hope so, too.

One thing about farming many of you may not realize is that farming is very LOCAL.
What works in one area, doesn’t work in another.
In West Texas, where the wind blows strong and the lands tend to be flat, windmills make sense.

But what would I know, I’m just a farmer.

 

[jyoutz]

But repurposing a plant is always cheaper than starting over. The RR coal cars can be replaced with NG tank cars. The people there can keep their jobs. No new land seizures or acquisitions. The NG is right under our feet. 1000 years of NG ready to roll.
American resources, people, infrastructure. All in-place and ready to go. All American jobs from fracking, to railroads, to power generation. No China. Think about it. No trillions in taxpayer confiscated subsidies needed going overseas.

No solar/windmills ruining 1000’s of acres of mountain tops and beautiful valleys. No dead birds, dolphins or whales, either. No pollution generating concrete needed, either.

Let’s save our country from being over run by foreign junk and sending trillions overseas.

I’m a big proponent of natural gas. And we have an abundance of it. I also understand that wind and solar are in some areas and is increasing in others to be a major part of the mix. But pipelines are cheaper than rail transport. In the end, the utility companies are going to make the investment choices regardless of what we think.

 

[/pine]

IMO...Hay growers / producers are farmers like clam diggers are fishermen...!

 

[lman]

This mornings picture of my abutter.

Guarantees me 22 more years of peace an quiet .

Land went from a 25000 tax bill as agriculture to a 200000 as a solar farm, which is another plus .View attachment 796137

So you now have to pay $200,00 taxes? How is that a plus?

 

[Hay Dude]

I’m a big proponent of natural gas. And we have an abundance of it. I also understand that wind and solar are in some areas and is increasing in others to be a major part of the mix. But pipelines are cheaper than rail transport. In the end, the utility companies are going to make the investment choices regardless of what we think.

Ah, you had me until the last sentence.
“In the end, the utility companies are going to make the investment choices regardless of what we think“

Nope.

They are going to make investment choices based on where the money is

And Trillions given to them in taxpayer funded subsidies for green energy are going to make them go to green energy.

 

[Fixastuff]

But what would I know, I’m just a farmer.

How do you have time? I thought were a professional TBN poster!

 

[Hay Dude]

How do you have time? I thought were a professional TBN poster!

Simple. I have a I-phone and an I-pad!
They go with me to work silly!

 

[jyoutz]

Ah, you had me until the last sentence.
“In the end, the utility companies are going to make the investment choices regardless of what we think“

Nope.

They are going to make investment choices based on where the money is

Trillions given to them in taxpayer funded subsidies for green energy are going to make them go to green energy.

When you look under the covers, ALL public utilities and energy industries receive or have received subsidies.

 

[Hay Dude]

When you look under the covers, ALL public utilities and energy industries receive or have received subsidies.

Yes, but NOTHING like these new green energy subsidies.
These are being funded by taxpayers on emotion.

 

[K5lwq]

I hope so, too.

One thing about farming many of you may not realize is that farming is very LOCAL.
What works in one area, doesn’t work in another.
In West Texas, where the wind blows strong and the lands tend to be flat, windmills make sense.

But what would I know, I’m just a farmer.

Thank you for farming. Maybe things have changed as far as profit goes in farming so I may be out of touch. But dry farming 5000 acres of soybeans at $5.00 a bushel and averaging on good years 35 bushels to the acre I can say having something like the windmills hedging our bets would have been very welcome! We had some very tough years like a lot of farmers in our day. In 1985 78 farmers folded in the county where we farmed. It was not that big of a county either.

We had to break the ground, plant 8 rows at a time, cultivate the rows to keep the weeds down so way more trips across every acre than is done today.

But I suspect it is not much different with the rise in operating cost. Most of the land in Noxubee county today is planted to pines or they put in catfish ponds. The landscape there today is completely different and for me it is quite sad.

So I will never judge a farmer for finding a way to survive and continue to feed this great nation.

 

[two_bit_score]

Imminent Eminent?

JPMorgan CEO suggests government seize private property to quicken climate initiatives

JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon floated the idea of the U.S. government and corporations seizing private property to expedite achieving their climate agenda.

www.foxnews.com

The Green Energy agenda is all about transferring our money and literally our lives to the global overlords.

 

[two_bit_score]

True, but those “stumps” including windmills also provide substantial income to the farmers.

Your assumption is that the person farming the land is the owner. That is not always the case.

 

[two_bit_score]

Land went from a 25000 tax bill as agriculture to a 200000 as a solar farm, which is another plus .

How is that a plus for you?

 

[MossRoad]

So you now have to pay $200,00 taxes? How is that a plus?

The solar farm is now contributing $200K in taxes to the locale VS the only $25K that agriculture did. The solar farm generates 8 times the tax revenue for the local community as the farm did. That's a good thing.

 

[Hay Dude]

IMO...Hay growers / producers are farmers like clam diggers are fishermen...!

You know what they say about opinions.
Stay in your lane of expertise, if there is one

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