Fence Line App for my phone?

[fishheadbob]

Deeds are a nightmare. 100 acre parcel first surveyed about 1808. Mine references points like old oak tree, fence between beech trees (which fence, which beech trees), center line of creek, old elm tree- they all died in the 1950s, and so on. Irons for the same corner can be off by 30 or 40 feet. Glad I'm not a surveyor.

 

[grsthegreat]

Reminds me of the old joke about asking an old farmer for directions to the highway…..
well, continue down the road for a bit until you get to the spot where the old school used to be, then turn right in a bit……

 

[LD1]

I’m sorry, there are problems LD1.

Sighting a pin 40 feet away and extending a line? Not good. The rule in surveying was long backsight, short foresight. In this case you are backsighting a point 40 feet away and using it to extend a line hundreds of feet. Any error in one of the pins, your equipment or your skill will get multiplied several times over by the time your 1000 feet away. Picture your rifle scope off a couple inches at 40 feet. How much error is in your rifle bullet at 500 yards?

Compass bearings can be based on so many things that’s a dangerous system. I used a compass all the time to help me find corners, I was good at it, and I would get way off after a couple of thousand feet.

Obviously a survey is gonna be the most accurate.

I was just suggesting ideas based on limited info.

If you DONT have LOS to the farthest point....work with what you have. It will be WAY more accurate than a phone GPS. Sure a little error over the 40' is gonna be amplified. But not being able to actually see the property, or the back pin....I would rely on my judgment, and other property indicators to determine if I can accomplish it to some degree of accuracy, or rather I am gonna be WAY off.

Im not a surveyor. And dont have the LOS problems due to trees that eddy has. But I did locate all 4 markers for my 8.5 acre property, and installed about 1500' of fence. Oh, and I also stayed at a holiday Inn last night

 

[airbiscuit]

Reminds me of the joke Buddy Hackett told on the Tonight Show about how they resolve property disputes in Texas

 

[JethroB]

Deeds are a nightmare. 100 acre parcel first surveyed about 1808. Mine references points like old oak tree, fence between beech trees (which fence, which beech trees), center line of creek, old elm tree- they all died in the 1950s, and so on. Irons for the same corner can be off by 30 or 40 feet. Glad I'm not a surveyor.

My deed goes back to 1943 when my grandad bought it. It refers to the creek on one side then the existing deeds of 3 others on the rest. I now have 7 adjoining neighbors. None are of the initial 3. My 98 acre property is shaped like a cowboy boot, I live in the toe. State forestry service is going to come help me burn it all soon. Close enough should be ok. I hope.

 

[caver]

When I would help on a cave survey we did fore-sight and back-sites and it was still easy to screw it up. We used compasses like this. When closing a loop in a cave one little error gets amplified.

 

[bcp]

Place your fence as best you can, then don't worry about it. If a neighbor disputes it, say you'll be glad to move it to align with his survey.



Bruce

 

[dodge man]

When I would help on a cave survey we did fore-sight and back-sites and it was still easy to screw it up. We used compasses like this. When closing a loop in a cave one little error gets amplified.
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I used one very similar to that. You can look through the black thing at the bottom and read the dial while you sight what your looking at.

 

[s219]

If there are metal stakes/pins at the property corners, you can use a whole range of approximate methods to get in the ballpark and then use a metal detector to find the pin. Mobile apps, compass bearings, triangulation to ballpark the point from other known corners, etc. You can tolerate a bit of error in those devices/methods to get in the ballpark and then let the metal detector do the final locating.

I do this all the time, and the ballpark can be as much as a 10' radius but most times I come within a foot of the pin, sometimes within inches. So while it's important to caution about the accuracy and error, if you are sensible you can work with these imperfect tools to get the job done. Of course, once you find the pin you might not be able to prove or trust that it's in the original location. Most times I find them, it's pretty obvious they have not been disturbed, but I couldn't swear that on a stack of bibles. Get a surveyor if it needs to be legal.

Once you have located corner pins, then quite a bit can be done with line of sight. How much and how far is only limited by the visibility.

 

[Root Cause]

Their. (for the grammar police)

Theiy're is actually correct. It is up to you to pick which ones make you happy.