Dump Trucking & Dump Trailering

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Hay Dude

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Thought this would be an opportunity to let some of us with dump trucks/trailers to show some of the uses & situations for them.

Today I started delivering stone to build a 200’ long temporary stone trail over a muddy area for a customer.

Here I am arriving at the site with 10 tons of 3” tire scrubbers.

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My fuel filter light comes & goes. Just changed filter, so I’m pretty sure it’s the sender. The ABS lights are like a nonstop issue on big trucks today.

Getting closer to the hill in the trail. Its not that steep, but its got a decent fall off to the left side, so you have to pay attention. I put it in 4WD, you might be able to see the switch on the dash is lit.

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Up at the top of the hill.


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Found some dry ground up here. Thats always a good thing…..been mushy all spring.

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And dumped. Headed back. 10 tons doesn’t look like a lot after its on the ground…. :/

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Back to home. Back at it again tomorrow !

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10 tons doesn’t look like a lot after its on the ground…. :/

Yes, about 6.6 yards. With my non CDL registration I can only haul 6 ton or 4 yards of rock, so I don't. Not enough volume for most customers. If they insist, then I will, but I make it plain what I can haul.

I do move a lot of cinders, 6 ton is 6 yds for the fine stuff, 3/4" minus, the 2" clinkers I can haul 8 yds, a lot more air in the load.

I am wondering why you just dumped and didn't spread it with the truck?

Most of my cinders are spread.
 
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And dumped. Headed back. 10 tons doesn’t look like a lot after its on the ground…. :
No, it doesn't. That's what, about 6 yards?

Question1: What is your GVW? I'm under the impression that rear axles have a max weight rating of 20,000# and front axles are typically in the range of 17,000# for a GVW of 37k. I would think the 20k load would put you over weight and this leads into question #2.

Question2: Why do you use a single axle dump instead of a dump trailer? Costs for the purchase and operation of a trailer is much less than a truck. Only benefit I see to the truck is easier to maneuver in tight places.

By the way, Nice truck, I wish I had one. Just can't justify one, I can barely justify my dump trailer.
 
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No, it doesn't. That's what, about 6 yards?

Question1: What is your GVW?

41,780#
I'm under the impression that rear axles have a max weight rating of 20,000#

My rear axle is 27,000#
and front axles are typically in the range of 17,000# for a GVW of 37k.

My front axle is 14,780# Most front axles are 12,000#.
I would think the 20k load would put you over weight and this leads into question #2.

No. Truck weighs 21,000# empty and 10 tons (20,000#) makes me 41,000# so I'm fully in the legal range. I’m legal with 20,780#.
Question2: Why do you use a single axle dump instead of a dump trailer? Costs for the purchase and operation of a trailer is much less than a truck. Only benefit I see to the truck is easier to maneuver in tight places.

And that's just it. Even with my Ram with 4WD, it couldn't pull a loaded dump trailer with a 20,000# load capacity into the places where I go with a 4WD dump truck.
By the way, Nice truck, I wish I had one. Just can't justify one, I can barely justify my dump trailer.
Thanks. I actually may buy a dump trailer in the near future for easy access jobs, but this dump truck is doing a good job so far
 
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Yes, about 6.6 yards. With my non CDL registration I can only haul 6 ton or 4 yards of rock, so I don't. Not enough volume for most customers. If they insist, then I will, but I make it plain what I can haul.

I do move a lot of cinders, 6 ton is 6 yds for the fine stuff, 3/4" minus, the 2" clinkers I can haul 8 yds, a lot more air in the load.

I am wondering why you just dumped and didn't spread it with the truck?

Most of my cinders are spread.
Because it's got to be shuttled from the pile to the soft trail. Even with 4WD at that weight, the truck would sink
 
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Could not find a recent picture. I sometimes need a small load of gravel to spot repair gravel diveway.

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Trailer weight is ~1500 lbs. Max is 9990 lbs.
My truck weight is ~5100lbs. and GCWR is 14900lbs. I try to keep it around 12000 lb because I have a serious hill to climb from the gravel pit back to my property.
 
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My dump truck is an old F600 gasoline engine beater that's not street legal, so I just use it for moving dirt around my place. Since I never drove one before buying this one, it's been a learning experience full of mistakes.

Making sure it's level when dumping is a big one. Another is not loading it with mud from the pond where the water will drain down to where the tires have to drive on when leaving the pond.

This is one of my worse stucks ever. Fortunately my neighbor saw me and he brought his backhoe over. With his backhoe, and mine, we pulled it out fairly easy.

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I drool over dump trailers and smaller dump trucks but I need them only once or twice a year at this point so can't justify having one of my own, so I'll just watch from here for now.
 
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This why I don't let my wife drive it. She atleast grabbed a shovel.

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Raising our road.

Hydraulics are only rated for 5 ton but it works. Luckily gravel yard is only a couple miles down the road.

Unfortunately, rust took over and it's not really road safe, IMO so now we just use it to move gravel and dirt around the property and just pay to have it delivered.
 
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I’m also in the “want a dump trailer but don’t need one “ category. I figure with a 14,000 pound dump trailer I could haul 4 or 5 tons of gravel but that’d be over what I should be hauling with my F150.
 

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