Dreaded Safe Mode Is Back

countrybumpkin · Dec 4, 2018

How long have you had the tractor now, I can’t remember when you bought it. I did run across your other thread you started about this issue the first time it happened, after reading through it it explained a lot more of what issues your having.

JimR · Dec 5, 2018

countrybumpkin said:
How long have you had the tractor now, I can’t remember when you bought it. I did run across your other thread you started about this issue the first time it happened, after reading through it it explained a lot more of what issues your having.

I bought my tractor back in Sept. 2016.

JimR · Dec 9, 2018

The tractor got dropped off yesterday morning for repairs to fix the "who knows whats wrong with it" issue. Friday night while loading it on a trailer I noticed that if I took my foot off the brake the engine revved up to 1600 rpm's. I put my foot on the brake and sure enough, it dropped back down to an idle. The throttle lever was partially forward when this happened and the CEL light was on. Normally the CEL light would come on and the motor would drop to an idle and the light would go off. I showed this to the mechanic and he was surprised and had never seen anything like that before. "A note on regen's." I mentioned the regen cycle to him. He stated that if the tractor is run at a higher rpm that the regen light should never come on. I told him that mine had only come on once since I bought the tractor. I told him that I normally run between 1600 and 2200 when using the tractor except when using my chipper or mowers at PTO rpm's. He said that is fine. He said that these tractors are made to run at higher rpm's to keep the exhaust clean and that I never should run it at slow rpm's. Now the waiting starts for the problem to be solved so that I can haul in some trees while the ground is frozen. The dealer was really nice and his son had just come back from Kioti training.

countrybumpkin · Dec 9, 2018

Hope you get good news soon. Mine did the same thing as yours is doing now, CEL and 1600 rpm, it was bad injectors. There are something like a dozen or codes that will trigger the high idle though, But if I remember correctly they all have to do with fuel deliver.

JimR · Dec 10, 2018

countrybumpkin said:
Hope you get good news soon. Mine did the same thing as yours is doing now, CEL and 1600 rpm, it was bad injectors. There are something like a dozen or codes that will trigger the high idle though, But if I remember correctly they all have to do with fuel deliver.

I hope they get to it in the near future. If it was fuel injectors why would it run on regen at 2500 rpm's? I'm thinking more like something electrical like the ECM or possibly the injector pump which is controlled by the ECM. It also could be a bad throttle switch. Regen bypasses that item.

countrybumpkin · Dec 10, 2018

Mine ran fine even at high rpm with the CEL on, it just wanted to idle at 1600 but would drop to a normal idle when you applied the brakes.

JimR · Dec 11, 2018

countrybumpkin said:
Mine ran fine even at high rpm with the CEL on, it just wanted to idle at 1600 but would drop to a normal idle when you applied the brakes.

Mine will idle fine with the throttle closed. I just happened to have it up a bit to see if it would go over 1100 rpm's which was the highest it would go to as of a week ago. The tractor would never go over an idle with the CEL on. This was a first for me. Since this started the tractor would automatically drop to an idle anytime the CEL came on. This is what happens when you add tons of electronics and emission controls to vehicles. Hopefully it is an easy fix. With only 345 hours on it there shouldn't be anything going wrong with a machine like this.

countrybumpkin · Dec 11, 2018

I agree , more than likely something simple. Hopefully they get it going pretty quick for you.

JimR · Dec 11, 2018

countrybumpkin said:
I agree , more than likely something simple. Hopefully they get it going pretty quick for you.

I hope the fix is fast but I am in no hurry. There is no snow forecast for anytime soon.

JimR · Dec 15, 2018

My local dealer found that my "hand lever accelerator" was faulty. He called Kioti about it and they agreed to cover the cost of the part under warranty. My 2 year general parts warranty had expired in September. I have to eat the diagnostic work and labor to replace it. The part is just under $500.00. The part should be in this week.