Don't make them like they used to

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JOHNTHOMAS

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Classic Mustang a rough beauty

When I read this article I can't help but think about the times I've read on this forum how they aren't making tractors like they used to which always brings a grin to my face. I love the old days and the memories of the old days. I also try to be a realist and admit that things actually weren't necessarily better in the old days, just different. I also remember the truth about old cars as seen in this article and I've had over a hundred in my short 46 buying years which didn't start until I was 17. I'm sure the owners of older tractors can remember the truth about them, if they will, and give the input that newer ones are better overall. I won't trade my newer ones for older ones.:)


As Detroit revs up for the Woodward Dream Cruise, I desperately wanted to get behind the wheel of a classic and take her for a spin.
So I promised Manny Lopez, The Detroit News columnist and opinion page editor, a Drive cover for his 1966 Ford Mustang if he'd let me borrow it. Obtaining the keys to a classic car owner's pride and joy can only be done through some sort of bribery. He agreed and off I went in a cream colored '66 Mustang with a red interior.
It's been a while since I've driven a car older than me, and, oh, how the memories rushed back at the first whiff of formerly leaded exhaust. There's a beauty in the mechanical simplicity of these vehicles. Furthermore, this particular Mustang looks outrageously sweet. That long hood, the short deck lid, and a roof that's not even chest high made me swoon when I walked up to it.
I slipped the door/ignition key into the lock and watched the chrome door lock pop up. When was the last time I did that? New cars unlock themselves when I walk up and touch the door handle.

Keys are dying a slow death. This Mustang had two, the rounded one for trunk, the square one for ignition. I still remember my first car's blue aluminum keys and the way they first felt in my hand -- cold and grown up. Do kids have the same tactile experience today? "Dad, can I borrow the preprogrammed fobless MyKey, which limits both the stereo volume and top speed, for the Mustang tonight? Please?"
So, here was the moment of truth, I thought, sitting on the red vinyl driver's seat with less support than a chaise lounge beach chair. I turned the key and waited for that engine to roar. It didn't. Then I turned the key again. The starter motor raged against the machine, but nothing else. I sat there, and for a moment hearing my father's voice clear as day, "Don't flood it, Scott. Easy on the gas. Oh, no, its flooded."
I waited for the smell of fresh gas to dissipate. Turned the key, heard the click and felt the vroooom.
Such a lovely sound

Oh, that engine is a symphony of bass and vibrato; it's metal American machismo. It bubbles up your spine every time you hit the accelerator, which on this particular model pretty much acted like an on/off switch. Either I was at full acceleration or none.
This Mustang included a 302 cubic inch V-8 -- no, it's not a Boss 302, which generated 290 horses when it arrived in '69. This particular engine creates around 200+(ish) horsepower. Classic cars come with a lot of fuzzy estimates. Compared to the 2011 Mustang, the '66 version is a weakling. The 2011's 3.7-liter V-6 tosses out 305 horsepower. But figures don't' tell the whole story. When you judge them by sound, the contest isn't even close.
The original's V-8 heads the class. It shakes the driver -- and the entire car -- at idle. Modern Mustangs are so quiet on the road that Ford engineers piped engine noise into the cabin so the driver could enjoy its roar. The '66 Mustang can be heard three blocks away. It sets off car alarms. (It's security system is The Club.)
Open the hood and there's room to work. You could change the oil, plugs and fuel filter without pulling the engine. It's beautiful.
Comparing it to the 2011 Ford Mustang would be like comparing the Wright Flyer to the space shuttle. The original doesn't have a voice-activated stereo system with a Bluetooth connection for hands-free cell phone communication. No, the original doesn't even have FM. You communicate with this car by engine revs and tire chirps.
On the road, the '66 Mustang was exhilaratingly awful. The rear suspension (it is actually a leaf spring set up similar to those found on wooden wagons discarded along the Oregon Trail) made the car sound like someone was in the trunk banging a 20-pound sledge hammer every time you hit a bump. The manual steering requires Popeye-forearm strength, though I did enjoy the 4 inches of play the wheel allowed as you cruised.
There was no nagging shoulder harness strapping me to the car's seat. The lap belt felt as helpful as the ones on airplanes. Really, there were no safety features in this Mustang. Front air bags, side curtain air bags, traction control, stability control, little black boxes and everything else people think are commonplace were not there.
Creature comforts lacking

And forget about cruise control, windshield wipers that can actually remove rain or headlights bright enough to cast a shadow (though I do love the high-beam switch on the floor). All of the creature comforts found in today's Mustang, such as heated supportive seats, LED lights that change colors and cup holders, were then ideas yet to be drawn.
But man, did those guys back then know how to use metal. There's more sparkling iron on the door sills of the '66 Mustang than you'll find inside an entire fleet of today's pony cars. The single iron exterior mirror on the driver's door just looks cool and nothing says "tough" more than a steel dash. Then there's the way the door closes with such crisp authority. Ka-clunk.
Closing the door, however, is also a harrowing experience. The windows can get out of alignment and chrome pieces on the door's window will slap into the rear windows. I still love the small triangle windows on the front, the ones you can open up and flick the cigarette ash out -- just be careful getting into the car because you don't want lose an eye on that pointy end (that almost happened to me twice).
But that's the thing about the classics. The 1966 Mustang is perfectly imperfect. Quibble over the way you smell like gas and oil after driving it or how the lack of air conditioning makes for sweat stains the size of Texarkana on your back -- it doesn't matter. All of that nostalgia in the truck blurs the imperfections and distorts both yesterday and today. No, Detroit doesn't build them like they used to; thank goodness for that.
These cars prove how bad drivers had it back then. The ride was terrible, hot and dirty.
Sure, my forearm fit nicely on the window sill of the '66 Mustang as I rumbled down Michigan Avenue. I felt good and, for a little while, I found myself enjoying memory lane.
But I'm a modern man. I like air conditioning and good fuel economy and a suspension that doesn't require having a chiropractor on retainer.
Nostalgia is a great place to visit, I just wouldn't want to live there.


From The Detroit News: Classic Mustang a rough beauty | detnews.com | The Detroit News
 
/ Don't make them like they used to #3  
Great post.

It seems the older I get, the more nostalgic I become. The article helps me remember that some things about the "good old days" weren't so "good."


I recall all the times that I tried to help my Dad as he fiddled with the carburetors, points, etc. on our trucks, cars, and tractors. My Dad and uncles seldom got in the field early in the morning. The first part of the morning was spent as follows:

1. discovering that a tractor or truck wouldn't start or run correctly,
2. looking for the tools that had been used the previous day to solve another mechanical problem, and
3. fixing the problem:)

Give me EFI, electronic ignition, etc. any day of the week.

Steve
 
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Well, my BX2660 is in the shop again so I'm leaning toward they don't build them like they used to. I spent a lot of time working on farms in the summer when I was growing up and it sure seemed that we had less problems with tractors. The problems I've had have been primarily with components that keep it running. A good friend of mine that has owned orange for many years can't get over all the problems I've had with it. In all fairness the Dealer has been great in dealing with the problems quickly and professionally. I'll be heading out this morning to rent a tractor to finish the work on my property that I have to complete due to weather issues.
 
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Brings back so many memories...

But that being said, I wouldn't trade in my current tractors for older ones. I used to say that I spent more time working ON my 8N than I did working with it. It's nice to be able to get on, turn the key and go to work.
 
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I had a '67 Mustang 2+2 fastback...Had a 289 and was a fantastic car...Came back from Vietnam in 1970 and bought the horse for $1,100.

Don
 
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My brother and nephew rebuilds old 60's model Chevy pickups. They love to drive them around, but don't use them as daily drivers. I like to look at classic cars/trucks, but have no desire to ever drive one again.
 
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I had a '66' factory high performance Mustang with the 289 cu. in. engine. I think I paid $2200 for it when I returned from Vietnam in '68'. It was hot, and I drove it way too fast. I survived the experience, and have fond memories, but would rather have the coin that car would bring today than the car itself. I spent my time on old tractors too, and really have to smile a bit when I hear all the complaints about the seats on new ones. (the forward sloping Kubota "B" seats that were around for a while excepted). A few days spent in a metal seat with holes for ventilation, and water (sweat) drainage will modify that opinion in a hurry! :D
 
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No wonder the guy who wrote the article had that experience:

Classic or not, a Ford's a Ford. :laughing::D

Kidding aside, I have a number of classic cars and they would make horrible daily drivers. I use to enjoy daily-ing an old beater, but gave that up too a few years ago.

I do enjoy the simplicity and quaintness of it all... but only because I can pick and choose when I want to drive one, I don't have to.
Like the guy said, nostalgia's a nice place to visit, don't want to live there. :)
 
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Everything has it's place.

I enjoy my classic hot rods. Wouldn't give them up for anything, but I aso like my late model daily driver.

No, they don't make them like they used to.
 
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Everything has it's place.

I enjoy my classic hot rods. Wouldn't give them up for anything, but I aso like my late model daily driver.

No, they don't make them like they used to.
i agree- we have a 64 corvette that takes up garage space-def not a daily driver but mid life candy crisis stuff my wife says-just something about it that makes one like looking at it but for long trips and hot days i'll def take todays comfort vehicles.
 
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Ah Yes, The Good Old Days...
Best thing about 'em, we weren't Good or Old at the time!
 
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Old equipment served its purpose, just not as easily as the modern stuff. Lots of us grew up on tractors without a live PTO. The first tractors I drove had belt pulleys so they could power old steam equipment. They were hard to start, hard to steer, hot and noisy. Lots of farmers lost their hearing to the stack on a John Deere 2-banger.

I drive a 2003 Mazda B3000. It's a great little compact truck. Cruise, AC, power steering, electric windows, good sound system, smooth, quiet ride, with a 3 liter 6 cyl. You can put half a ton in the bed and drive off like it's not there. Essentially, it's a Ford Ranger with different sheet metal. I added an electric brake controller, and I can haul 2 tons down the road just by locking out the overdrive. It also only gets about 18 mpg commuting. I save it for long trips to hot climates, like SoCal or Arizona. It only has 60k miles on it.

My commuter truck is a 1984 Nissan (still says Datsun in small letters) with the Z24 4 cylinder engine and 5 speed manual transmission, manual steering, no AC, no cruise, a lousy radio, and all the acoustic charm of a 55 gallon drum. It is also an honest half ton truck, has an electric brake controller, and works just as hard as the Mazda. It averages 25 mpg commuting. It saves me $40 or $50 a month in gas, plus smaller, cheaper tires, except I don't drive it in the summer because of the no AC. It's also my beater truck, used to haul firewood, rock, etc. When the Nissan wears out, the Mazda will still be a low mileage old pickup that hasn't been beat to crap.
 
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My dream car is a 70 Mach 1 351C dark metallic Green. And someday before I'm too old I will have one
 
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Had a '69 Camaro Rally Sport for a first car. Really wish I'd kept my '72 Chevelle Super Sport. Everything was factory with the exception of a set of headers. Small block with a 4 on the floor was a kick to drive. Get out of the city and you could open it up!
 
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WOW was I surprised to read the contents of this thread...

When I saw JohnThomas was the author...
First thought was he is trading again....:laughing:

Anyway-- great story though!!!

J
 
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WOW was I surprised to read the contents of this thread...

When I saw JohnThomas was the author...
First thought was he is trading again....:laughing:

Anyway-- great story though!!!

J
No, just for the old timers that forget how it REALLY was with the oldies. I did trade trucks a few weeks ago but I think I now have the right vehicles and tractors.:)
 
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No, just for the old timers that forget how it REALLY was with the oldies. I did trade trucks a few weeks ago but I think I now have the right vehicles and tractors.:)

really?
have you seen the new BX2480 ???


:laughing::laughing::laughing:
 
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really?
have you seen the new BX2480 ???


:laughing::laughing::laughing:
No.
Until they come up with a low to the ground tractor with BH and a front SSQA bucket that can be exchanged with a SSQA 72" front mowing deck I'm not interested. :D:D
 
 
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