DK 55 Shuttle

RedDog · Jan 26, 2004

Well I guess I'm gonna have to try it, but I do not think it will work. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

I bet most of the owners on here stop before changing directions.

RedDog

DK35vince · Jan 26, 2004

( ( I bet most of the owners on here stop before changing directions. ))

I think I nearly always stop before changing directions.
Habit I guess.
I have changed direction a few times without a complete stop and have never had any grinding.

DK35vince · Jan 26, 2004

( Every time it sets in neutral for a while it will grind going to forward also. )

I do know it shouldn't be doing that !!

JASTN70D · Jan 27, 2004

I guess I am in the habit of not stopping because I have a hydro also. Really I think if I did not have to stop so long I would not have noticed it either. But shuttle makes the FEL work so much better. I paid for it I expect it to work.! And yes from a standstill is definitely a problem. It is irritating to hear that grind on a brand new Tractor. Sends shivers up my spine.
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virgil · Jan 27, 2004

There should NOT be any grinding when shifting the shuttle.
I did not believe that it was possible to shift the shuttle while still moving untill I read these comments, and went out on the yard and tried it for myself. We have been selling Kioti since the mid 90's, and have always encouraged our coustomers to come to a stop before shifting.
I would still recomend coming to a stop to shift. Just as I do all my pickups. (tore out a few transmissions and rear ends when I was a kid) It just has to be easier on everything in the power train.
Again, there should NOT be any grinding. We have had to redoo 3 shuttles in the past 10 years. They were not shimed correctly from the factory. I was under the impression that this problem was taken care of for I havent seen or heard of it in almost 2 years.

RedDog · Jan 27, 2004

(
I did not believe that it was possible to shift the shuttle while still moving untill I read these comments, and went out on the yard and tried it for myself. )

Well what happened when you tried it???

/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif RedDog

DK35vince · Jan 27, 2004

( I think if I did not have to stop so long I would not have noticed it either. )

Hope you get fixed up John, because something is not right.
I may be in the habit of coming to a stop , but its barely, there is no waiting.
Occasionally I change direction while still moving slightly with no grinding.

( And yes from a stand still is definitely a problem)

No doubt about that !!!

depratt_equip · Jan 27, 2004

RedDog - Your DK65 is actually a Full Synchromesh Transmission. It should shift even smoother than the other DK line. I know that in all our DK65's we have sold they do shuttle smoother than the other DK's. All other DK's are Synchronized Shuttle and Transmission.

On the DK35-DK55 tractors I believe when using the shuttle you need to use it in one complete motion. (Example: don't stop half way or if you only get it part way in F or R then go back to N and back to F or R it will tend to grind, make sure it goes in completely) I have noticed if i do this then i tend to have to re-clutch then put it in gear. I don't know why this is; I just figure it was normal as i have noticed it in other brands as well.

JASTN70D · Jan 27, 2004

Thanks Vince. I am confidence in my dealer to get it done.

virgil · Jan 27, 2004

it works... what can I say? JUST MY OPINION... I still dont like the idea of throwing anything into forward while still traviling in reverse, or vise-versa. That goes for cars, pickups, trucks, dozers, backhoes, tractors or anything that moves.
I used to do some cotton farming in west texas. I had 2 John Deere 8100's and 3 john deere 4440's. The 8100's had the capability to go from forward to reverse in any geer at any speed. WOW! THE MACHINE WOULD DO IT. I instructed my drivers to use a little commen sence about changing direction. I had to fire 1 of my drivers for doing this at high speeds. About a year later I was in the dealer's shop, and noticed my neighbor had his tractor in there and it was scattered over about 500 square feet. Come to find out, my ex driver went to work for my neighbor and was doing the "wild thing" just like the salesman showed us and he ripped 5 of the 7 clutch-packs out of the machine. (not covered in the warrenty) Yes I spent a little more time changing directions for several years, and my neighbor spent several thousand dollars and a week in the shop right at planting season. That hurts, That hurts real bad.
My money comes hard, I try to make it last. But again, that is just my opinion.