Disposing 50 yards trash filled dirt

[rd_macgregor]

Try calling a local fencing company and ask if they have any used/salvage fencing. I was pricing some new heavy chain link for an arena drag and asked about used; they said they had lots, so a big saving.
BOB

 

[tlbuser]

That's been one of my concerns. I started wearing a dust mask while I was loosening and piling the dirt. How do you tell if a shingle has asbestos? Do you break one and see if its stringy?

Easiest field test, use a cigarette lighter; if it burns - no asbestos

 

[boggen]

That's been one of my concerns. I started wearing a dust mask while I was loosening and piling the dirt. How do you tell if a shingle has asbestos? Do you break one and see if its stringy?

Easiest field test, use a cigarette lighter; if it burns - no asbestos

WRONG! asbestos only way to find out, is by a lab. with correct equipment normally a microscope is required. or something much more costly!

Don't mean to be negative, but if the shingles are composite you should check for the presence of asbestos. Laying on the ground undisturbed, the shingles should not be a problem. Start messing with them and the asbestos becomes friable, you have problems.

adding to greasemonkeyok
breaking the shingles / tearing the shingles, can cause asbestos to come out of a shingle. errr they become friable.

a generic dusk mask you can get at local hardware stores and like. do not even filter low enough to deal with any sort of asbestos, let alone many other things.

 

[MNBobcat]

WRONG! asbestos only way to find out, is by a lab. with correct equipment normally a microscope is required. or something much more costly!


adding to greasemonkeyok
breaking the shingles / tearing the shingles, can cause asbestos to come out of a shingle. errr they become friable.

a generic dusk mask you can get at local hardware stores and like. do not even filter low enough to deal with any sort of asbestos, let alone many other things.

I did some reading and they've done testing at recyclers and out of thousands of asphalt shingle samples tested they might find one or two samples containing less than 1% asbestos. It wasn't widely or heavily used in asphalt shingles.

 

[greasemonkeyok]

We couldn't find a reliable method of doing it yourself, and paid a local environmental lab to test some ceiling tiles we thought were most likely asbestos. Turned out, the tiles were just fiberglass so MNBobcat may have a point. Find a local environmental lab to give you a report, or there are some on the web such as:

Asbestos Testing Lab | Asbestos Testing Kit | EMSL Analytical Inc

The above is just an ad I found on Google, and I know nothing about that facility.

Think about the fact that the lab is going to ask you for the address of where the sample was taken.

 

[swick1]

A Dumpster rental is what you need. Sort through what you can and dump the rest. 30 yard rolloff is $450 here.

 

[orezok]

A Dumpster rental is what you need. Sort through what you can and dump the rest. 30 yard rolloff is $450 here.

Check with the Dumpster supplier first. Generally they limit the fill with dirt to about 1 foot or so as it is too heavy to lift and transport. Thirty CY of dirt would be over 80,000# not counting the bin or truck.

 

[quicksandfarmer]

A Dumpster rental is what you need. Sort through what you can and dump the rest. 30 yard rolloff is $450 here.

Around here you'd get three tons allowance with that $450 dumpster and $100 for each additional ton. And no dirt or concrete, that has to go in a special dumpster.

 

[MNBobcat]

Hi Guys,

As I got into that pile further I found what looked like fiberglass cloth and it had spread all over the ground from working the pile. When you crushed it in your fingers, it turned to white dust. If you picked it up, white powdery like dust filled the air.

Needless to say, that made me rather concerned. It wouldn't burn either. So I got out some brand new fiberglass cloth I have and tested it and it wouldn't burn either. That was good news because then it was possible it was fiberglass backing from the shingles and not asbestos. The thing is...I've never seen fiberglass powder like that when it gets old.

I took 2 samples to a lab today ($50) and it came back negative on asbestos. Was well worth the piece of mind it gave me.

But it goes to show that you need to be cognizant of what you could be digging up. I learned a valuable lesson and am very appreciative that you guys pointed out that there could be some nasty stuff in there. I've been wearing a cartridge respirator when I work. It helps keep the dirt/dust out of my lungs, too.

I'd need 10 dumpsters for what I had on hand. No, can't do the dumpster option. But I did find someone who wanted 30 yards of it for fill so now I'm down to about a half a pile!

 

[CompactTractorFan]

Our dumpster company lets us put in what ever we want (other than haz-mat and tires). There is a flat rate for a xx yard dumpster with a weight of up to x tons. Every ton over the limit is $70, IIRC.


Here are pics of our last load:

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/projects/244309-dumpster-cleanup.html

That was a 20 yard container that weighed in at 10 tons. :confused2:

 

[MNBobcat]

I wanted to share the end of the story. Two different people responded to my craigslist Ad and between the two of them they took all of it! Several more people responded who would have taken some.

I was amazed anyone would want it. But I guess having free fill delivered meant they didn't care too much what it looked like. It was about as bad as it could get. There were steel car rims in it, sheets of tin, glass, shingles, cloth, wire, etc.

 

[bigtiller]

I think Craigs List can move anything a guy doesn't want anymore.

 

[MNBobcat]

I think Craigs List can move anything a guy doesn't want anymore.

I guess so! It's almost as good as my magic road. What is my magic road, you ask? LOL!

I replaced 2 toilets in the house. Set both toilets out on the road and within 2 days both were gone.

I had a tangled piece of electric fence wire. Maybe 20 feet or so. Half of a rusted charcoal grill base. A few strands of other loose wire. I'd be surprised if all together it weighed a pound. Set it on the road, within 3 days it was gone.

Had some canister lights I replaced. Put on road...gone.

I've stuck stuff on the road, went to get more stuff and before I got back to the road it was gone.

 

[Gary Fowler]

I guess so! It's almost as good as my magic road. What is my magic road, you ask? LOL!

I replaced 2 toilets in the house. Set both toilets out on the road and within 2 days both were gone.

I had a tangled piece of electric fence wire. Maybe 20 feet or so. Half of a rusted charcoal grill base. A few strands of other loose wire. I'd be surprised if all together it weighed a pound. Set it on the road, within 3 days it was gone.

Had some canister lights I replaced. Put on road...gone.

I've stuck stuff on the road, went to get more stuff and before I got back to the road it was gone.

That reminds me of what a neighbor told me once. He had an old refrigerator that still worked but wife wanted an new one so he set the old one on the curb with a sign,"FREE " and not one person stopped to inquire. After about a week, he put a "For Sale $50" sign and it was stolen the first night. Go figure that one.

 

[rd_macgregor]

I guess so! It's almost as good as my magic road. What is my magic road, you ask? LOL!

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If something doesn't disappear right away, try putting a sign with a price on it...then it will likely be "stolen" pretty quickly.
BOB

 

[forgeblast]

What is my magic road, you ask? LOL!

I have a place like that I throw all my old metal there. By the next day its gone.
It keeps me in the good graces of the meth heads. I figure give them the old metal before they come looking for the copper.
(neighbors house was robbed off all the copper pipe.)

 

[JohninCT]

Hi Guys,

As I got into that pile further I found what looked like fiberglass cloth and it had spread all over the ground from working the pile. When you crushed it in your fingers, it turned to white dust. If you picked it up, white powdery like dust filled the air.

Needless to say, that made me rather concerned. It wouldn't burn either. So I got out some brand new fiberglass cloth I have and tested it and it wouldn't burn either. That was good news because then it was possible it was fiberglass backing from the shingles and not asbestos. The thing is...I've never seen fiberglass powder like that when it gets old.

I took 2 samples to a lab today ($50) and it came back negative on asbestos. Was well worth the piece of mind it gave me.

But it goes to show that you need to be cognizant of what you could be digging up. I learned a valuable lesson and am very appreciative that you guys pointed out that there could be some nasty stuff in there. I've been wearing a cartridge respirator when I work. It helps keep the dirt/dust out of my lungs, too.

I'd need 10 dumpsters for what I had on hand. No, can't do the dumpster option. But I did find someone who wanted 30 yards of it for fill so now I'm down to about a half a pile!

That must be a real curiosity for the neighbors.... Guy on a tractor wearing a repirator digging into a dirt pile. Better watch out or you might have the EPA show up and declare your house a superfund site. :laughing:

 

[MNBobcat]

That must be a real curiosity for the neighbors.... Guy on a tractor wearing a repirator digging into a dirt pile. Better watch out or you might have the EPA show up and declare your house a superfund site. :laughing:

Maybe....but I, uh, sort of disposed of the evidence! LOL!