Difference between 3032E and 3320

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#11  
I am not sure what your budget is, and I didn't see you say how many acres you have (I'd assume a good bit considering a 300ft driveway), but you may also want to consider buying 2 machines.

A MMM is like a $3000 option on most of these tractors. And that would go a long way toward buying a Zero-turn mower. And they are MUCH quicker at mowing than any of these tractors will be. And you wont have to worry as much about tearing up the lawn. This may also allow you to buy a bigger tractor which will make plowing the drive and other chores easier as well as being a better help on the farm down the road that you mention.

2 acre lot will be the main issue right now, with a 120 acre farm as a secondary issue. Just found out that it is exactly 120 acres today because I coincidentally ended up speaking to the farm owner's husband about it on the way to Court regarding what the county gains in property taxes should it be developed versus keeping it in the Farmland Forever program. Anyway, the ultimate goal is for me to buy my own farm in the near future in the 100 to 400 acre range.

Budget right now is about $15,000 to $20,000. I'll probably have around $10,000 to $15,000 in cash for this purchase after tax season. After next tax season, my budget could possibly be around $30,000+, but I don't want to be spending money on a tractor just for the sake of spending money on a tractor and having way more tractor than I will ever need. Don't mind a little more tractor than I will ever need, versus too little tractor in the very near future. I thoroughly believe in using the right tools for the job.

Ultimately, I think I am going to go with the suggestion of two machines. A zero turn mower for the grass and then a CUT for other chores. Plan on putting in a wood burning furnace with natural gas backup and the tractor will also be used for getting firewood when it will be handy to use it. Lots of work to be done. I want to rip out the rear patio and wood deck and replace the patio with pavers and the deck with Trex. Then, I want to rip out the front walkway and asphalt driveway and replace them with pavers. Most of the landscaping around the house is dead, so it needs to be pulled out and replaced. I guess that is what you can expect when buying a foreclosure.

Need to buy a chainsaw and pressure washer too.
 
   / Difference between 3032E and 3320
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#12  
Let the games begin!

Visit each tractor dealer within reasonable distance keeping in mind that they will need to come to you or the tractor must go to them for future service. Tractors can last a very long time so you may be entering into a long relationship with a dealer.

Explain to each dealer your land, what you would like to do with it and ask them for their equipment recommendation. Same land, same requirements so each recommendation should also be similar. (Our JD dealer came to our property to determine what we needed and demonstrated it on site.)

Come back to TBN and search each manufacturer's forum for repetitive problems about each machine. If there are problems then ask the dealer about them and evaluate them when you test drive that machine. (This is the fun part).

Get to know your new neighbors, what do they use and think of the equipment and dealer?

Consider renting occasional use equipment like post hole augers or hire a local contractor, it's not just the cost of purchase but you have to provide storage for it as well.

This should be a rational decision making process where you are comfortable with your choice before making the purchase.

Enjoy!

Planning on putting in a 4+ car garage on the property. Something like 40 feet wide by 30 feet deep, with a vehicle lift in it. So, storage down the road should not be a problem. In the meantime, I will be using a 2 car garage on the house to store the tractor and/or zero turn mower.

Is it possible to maintain a tractor myself, or will I HAVE to take it to the dealer for maintenance. I hardly ever take my vehicles to the dealer for maintenance. In fact, over the past 10 years I can only think of one instance where I had to take a vehicle to the dealer for maintenance/repair, and that was my F350 when I cross threaded the horizontal fuel filter cap and diesel was leaking all over the place when I tried to remove it. I hate letting other people maintain/repair my stuff, whether it be cars, bikes, guns, boats, or whatever. I just prefer doing the job myself and knowing that I did it right and it got done. My 1998 Taurus has 222,222 miles on it and it has never been to a mechanic for service.

I hate paying people to do anything that I can do myself, with some exceptions. Ultimately, with what my wife makes, I am stuck paying 49.3% in income/FICA/medicare tax on the first dollar I make.

federal - 25%
FICA/Medicare - 15.3%
Maryland - 6%
County - 3%

So, if I hire a contractor to put in the fence and it costs me $10,000, then I would have had to bill $20,000 in fees just to pay the contractor. Might as well spend a couple of weekends doing the work myself. The same can be said about buying equipment too, but I feel like down the road I will get additional use out of the auger, and it doesn't cost all that much anyway. The bigger issue will be the backhoe because that is a significant expense, but if I can put pit blinds in with it, I will be using it at least 4 times a year (i.e., putting the blinds in and then taking them out), so it might end up being worth the expense, along with the chores I have planned around the house.

Ultimately, I think I am going to go with the zero turn mower right now to start mowing the grass, research the tractor issue some more, and then buy something either this fall/winter before it starts snowing, or suck it up this winter and shovel the driveway and wait until next fall/winter when I can pay cash for whatever tractor I decide to buy. I hate financing things and we are a little strapped for cash after the 20% down payment, new washer/drier because the house didn't have them, retirement account contributions, kids' college fund contributions, and wanting to put in a new furnace/AC before fall gets here.

Plus, I don't really have to clear the driveway since I have an F350 and can get in and out without a problem. Only problem would be trying to get the Focus or the Taurus out of the driveway, but my wife hardly drives them when there is snow on the ground because she hates driving in the snow. I usually drive her to work when it snows, and that used to be an hour+ each way. Now, it is 12 minutes from here, so not a big deal. The Mustang doesn't see the light of day when snow is on the ground, so no worries there. Of course, I don't want to be the only guy in the neighborhood with snow on the driveway either.

I guess the rational/reasonable decision is going to be to buy the zero turn right now, evaluate the tractors and my tractor needs over the next year or so, and then revisit this decision making process in a year before spending $15,000+ on a piece of equipment.

Thanks for the advice.
 
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Is it possible to maintain a tractor myself, or will I HAVE to take it to the dealer for maintenance. .

Ultimately, I think I am going to go with the zero turn mower right now to start mowing the grass, research the tractor issue some more...

You can do all the routine maintenance (oil and filter changes, greasing, etc.). If there was a warranty problem, going to the dealer might be the best bet (to get the claim documented in case there is a repeat probem).

However, I think your decision to go with a ZTR is wise. As you wrote, there is no dire need for a tractor at this point in time.
 
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Rent before you buy. That way you will learn what NOT to buy.

Find a couple of projects for a loader and a backhoe, then rent one for the weekend. Call the rental fee "tuition".
 
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I love my 3320, but I would not mow my ball diamond with it. I originally was looking like you are, to get one machine for both purposes. Both the Deere and Kubota Dealers told me the same thing after I mentioned pulling average size disks and plows. They both said you will rut the grass. I think I received great advice and have been very pleased. I think you should really think about two dedicated machines. Ymmv.

I suspect the "rutting" depends on soil conditions / tires and how much one wants their lawn to resemble a golf green. I have turf tires and MMM on 3320 and mow with no ill effects on my lawn. The township community center also has one to mow their park & ball diamond.;)
 
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Well at least on mine even the little Sabre ruts slightly, occasionally. Now field mowing is one of the 3320's big jobs. It is just too heavy if there are turns that have to be made. Straight paths and being able to turn around in dirt could work, but it sounded to me that the op would have fencing and what not to negotiate around. The Kubota dealer had even mentioned that it would be a problem with turfs. I will say though that all my tires are filled. I use my tractor as a tractor and lawn mower as a mower, works great!
 
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Another vote for the two machine approach. I have about 1.5 acres of grass and about 500 ft of gravel drive way. I also have about two acres+ of woods that I'm always pulling logs -been known to stray over the line-out of plus I do a lot of work at the ag fairgrounds.

I started out with a 755 with midmount and loader. then I got tired of going through the hassle of pulling the deck so I sold it (the deck) and bought a new 60" Landpride rear mount. Then moved up to a 3320 with 300CX loader. Great tractor. I was using the Landpride with that and I have to say, with turf tiresd I never really damaged the lawn. However-my oldest upgrades his 655 ZTrak to a bigger one and I bought the ZTRAK. Bottom line- the only place the 3320 will mow will be the fairgrounds. Can't beat the speed/quality of cut of a zero turn.

Get the zero turn then keep your eyes peeled for a low hour 3320. I think its a lot more tractor than the 3025 and its something you won't have to replace unless your ego and/or your wallet says you need something bigger or newer.
 
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Fabsroman,

Your idea of two machines is a sound one.

Depending upon how you intend to work the 120 acres the JD dealer may recommend a tractor larger than the 3320.

Used compact utility tractors are very much in demand; a used 60 to 100 hp Ag tractor may be more economical.

In choosing a zero turn mower consider that they move quite fast so if your lawn is bumpy then you may want to think about upgrading to a model with a suspension system.

It is not recommended that you pull anything with a zero turn, if you do not need the maneuverability then you might want to consider an X series lawn tractor and if you mow across slopes look for one with a locking differential.

2 vehicles, a tractor, mower and shop space will fill a 4 bay garage, think about if you will be storing implements indoors or out.

Consider carefully and buy only once.
 
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Fabsroman,

Your idea of two machines is a sound one.

Depending upon how you intend to work the 120 acres the JD dealer may recommend a tractor larger than the 3320.

Used compact utility tractors are very much in demand; a used 60 to 100 hp Ag tractor may be more economical.

In choosing a zero turn mower consider that they move quite fast so if your lawn is bumpy then you may want to think about upgrading to a model with a suspension system.

It is not recommended that you pull anything with a zero turn, if you do not need the maneuverability then you might want to consider an X series lawn tractor and if you mow across slopes look for one with a locking differential.

2 vehicles, a tractor, mower and shop space will fill a 4 bay garage, think about if you will be storing implements indoors or out.

Consider carefully and buy only once.

Really don't have much desire to garage any of the cars other than my Mustang, and maybe another Mustang if I ever get around to buying another. The Taurus, Focus, and F350 can sit on the driveway. So, 2 car garage on the house for the Mustang, and the 4 car garage in the back for the tractor, mower, implements, and everything else (e.g., decoys, stands, blinds, wood workshop). I am thinking about going 40x30 with that garage, or maybe even 40x40. Don't know just yet. The basement in the house is 58x35 and it seems huge. Good thing is that there is enough room to put up another garage right next to it if I need it.

The good thing about living at the townhouse was that everything had already been remodeled and there was no room for a shed or anything. The bad thing was that there was no room left in the townhouse, no place to build a shed, most of my hunting/fishing stuff was still in my parents' shed, and our 2 car garage was packed full of junk such that a car was never parked in it. I am really happy with our new place. Only problem is that the list of "chores" got a lot longer.

Right now, I am leaning toward the JD Z445 zero turn mower. I'll probably buy it right after tax season. How do the zero turns do on slopes? Most of the property is flat, but there is a slight slope by the road and by one neighbor's driveway.

I'm going to spend a good amount of time looking at tractors at the dealers, checking out the specs, and then buying something right before winter or buying something right after next tax season and sucking it up next winter with a shovel. Still need a good chain saw and pressure washer.

By the way, this forum is awesome. Thanks for all the advice. It has definitely influenced my decision.
 
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Zero Turn,

Our dealer demonstrated a JD Z225 and a JD Z425 across our 20 degree slope, we choose the Z425 for its greater stability. The front caster wheels are tricky across the slope at which times I wish that it had the equivalent of a creeper gear. The two independently driven wheels mean that it always has traction to move even if the uphill drive wheel spins free.

Our "lawn" is too bumpy to allow us to mow at full speed with this machine and spin turns require a little practice to avoid tearing the turf. The ride might best be compared to an amusement park ride ;-)

If you intend to farm your 120 acres I do not think that the JD 3320 would be adequate. We have no farming experience and only use our 3320 to maintain the driveway. This winter blowing 12 inches of medium density snow with the 59 inch JD blower and throttle wide open it could only manage ½ mph uphill without dropping the rpms below the 2500 rpm PTO speed. With your acreage you may want to think about how much time it will take to complete a task such as plowing with only 32 hp.

Now that we are in the pre-spring freeze/thaw cycle I am considering getting a Zamboni for the driveway :)

Who would have guessed that people like to talk about tractors? This is a good subject to meet your new neighbors; they may have some invaluable local knowledge to share with you.
 
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