Deutz Tractors?
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I don't have any photos of them with Loaders yet. I'll take some here in the next few days. Deutz only has a Backhoe available for the Agrokid Series (39-50HP). We are putting Bradco or Bush Hog Backhoes on all the larger models.
Andrew
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Here are a couple. On the Kid models we use the Frey loader with the Wallenstein backhoe. Nice clean package and the Frey mounts up great with a cab. I also the OEM loader made by KMW
Most of our larger tractors sell with the Frey Vertex high lift loader vs. the OEM Stoll made Deutz loader. Smallest one lifts 5000 lbs to 14.5 feet so you can stack big bales seven high.
Buck
Most of our larger tractors sell with the Frey Vertex high lift loader vs. the OEM Stoll made Deutz loader. Smallest one lifts 5000 lbs to 14.5 feet so you can stack big bales seven high.
Buck
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I like the new frey loader on that tractor. I am new to selling Deutz. It is nice to see other loaders that will mount. We are using Alo (Quickies) right now at the recomindation of another Dealer.
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Our neighbor had a D8006 made around 1975. Excellent on fuel, handled decently and pulled hard. You could shut the engine down, pull the dipstick and lay it on your wrist and not get burnt. On the downside, the hydraulics and power steering were slow compared to the American made tractors of the same era. We were impressed enough to deal on the same model, but purchased an Allis-Chalmers.
case685
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My Dad had a mid 80's DA7085 cab model with FWA. It was a great tractor, never gave him a single problem. Although I've seen some older Deutz's for sale pretty cheap, the 85 series seem to hold thier value, which is a good indication of thier quality. Gerry
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deutz tractors are the best tractors ever made in my opinion, i have drove new tractors but my favorite all time is a 81 DX 110, i wish they never put a watercooled engine tho
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I haven't posted on the site for a while but do read almost daily. Since I bought a new Agroplus 87 back in June I figured I'd make a report for those interested.
The main reason I purchased this tractor is for pulling a side delivery spreader. I had used a 2610 Long and got by for several years but knew the spreader was to big for that tractor.
I got the Agroplus 87 at the end of hay season but did have some Sudax to roll and baled some for a neighbor too. I have been really impressed with the tractor and the technology built in to it. The model I bought has electronic shuttle, stop and go and rpm memory. All of which are used each time I dump a roll of hay. Also on my baler I have to stop the PTO before dumping and the push button PTO is great too. It sure made baling much easier than what I was use to.
I had about 350 tons of wood ash delivered by late June. Spread 110 tons for a neighbor then. I spread on fields that I wouldn't have thought of going on with that Long tractor because of steep hills. The Agroplus has 4 wheel breaking and it works like a charm too. After using the all wheel breaking I see it's a big safety factor and every tractor should have that if you're working on hills or pulling heavy loads.
Pulling that spreader, the Agroplus 87 shinned with the electronics again. To start the spreader three things have to happen pretty fast. Once the pto starts I hit the button for RPM memory and open the gate in that order. So it's tap the PTO button twice, once for the rpm's and pull the handle for the hydraulic gate and used the detent valve for that function.
I may cuss the electronic functions if I have problems with them but as of now they sure are nice to have. The cab is nice and very well laid out. Love that air seat too. I forgot to mention the tractor will shift through five speeds in each of 6 choices of speeds. There's a button on the shifter that allows shifting without pressing the clutch pedal. That along with shuttle and stop and go I only use the clutch pedal to start the engine and from then on it's all wet clutch. The Stop and Go I use all the time. When I press the brake pedals the tractor decels and stops. When I release the brake pedals the tractor accels as to how fast you take my foot off the pedals and starts moving again. That's very handy for lots tractor work here.
In the operators manual it says the tractor will run 24 mph on the highway. I've driven behind it on two different pickup trucks when my son was on the road and the tractor runs 30 mph top speed. Again all wheel braking is very nice to have at speeds like that. In high range high gear the electronics take over in that gear and the engine RPM's go to 1,800 at 30 mph. This is used to save fuel.
Fuel usage has gotten better each tank full. Started out at 2 gal. per hour. I now pull that spreader and on the road a lot and it uses 1.28 GPH of fuel. That's pretty darn good for 87 hp and using about 80 of that when spreading.
My post is getting long and I'll stop here. Just wanted to report what I've seen so far and have had no problems with the tractor at all. It's been flawless. I think Deutz Fhar has put a lot of time and thought in those tractors to make them user friendly and dependable. I've used several models of JD tractors and have never seen one as smooth with the shuttle and shifting as this model is. Got a neighbor that's all JD all his years of farming and that's the first thing he said when he tried the Agroplus out. He was really impressed with the shifting and smoothness of it.
I'm just plumb tickled with this tractor.
The main reason I purchased this tractor is for pulling a side delivery spreader. I had used a 2610 Long and got by for several years but knew the spreader was to big for that tractor.
I got the Agroplus 87 at the end of hay season but did have some Sudax to roll and baled some for a neighbor too. I have been really impressed with the tractor and the technology built in to it. The model I bought has electronic shuttle, stop and go and rpm memory. All of which are used each time I dump a roll of hay. Also on my baler I have to stop the PTO before dumping and the push button PTO is great too. It sure made baling much easier than what I was use to.
I had about 350 tons of wood ash delivered by late June. Spread 110 tons for a neighbor then. I spread on fields that I wouldn't have thought of going on with that Long tractor because of steep hills. The Agroplus has 4 wheel breaking and it works like a charm too. After using the all wheel breaking I see it's a big safety factor and every tractor should have that if you're working on hills or pulling heavy loads.
Pulling that spreader, the Agroplus 87 shinned with the electronics again. To start the spreader three things have to happen pretty fast. Once the pto starts I hit the button for RPM memory and open the gate in that order. So it's tap the PTO button twice, once for the rpm's and pull the handle for the hydraulic gate and used the detent valve for that function.
I may cuss the electronic functions if I have problems with them but as of now they sure are nice to have. The cab is nice and very well laid out. Love that air seat too. I forgot to mention the tractor will shift through five speeds in each of 6 choices of speeds. There's a button on the shifter that allows shifting without pressing the clutch pedal. That along with shuttle and stop and go I only use the clutch pedal to start the engine and from then on it's all wet clutch. The Stop and Go I use all the time. When I press the brake pedals the tractor decels and stops. When I release the brake pedals the tractor accels as to how fast you take my foot off the pedals and starts moving again. That's very handy for lots tractor work here.
In the operators manual it says the tractor will run 24 mph on the highway. I've driven behind it on two different pickup trucks when my son was on the road and the tractor runs 30 mph top speed. Again all wheel braking is very nice to have at speeds like that. In high range high gear the electronics take over in that gear and the engine RPM's go to 1,800 at 30 mph. This is used to save fuel.
Fuel usage has gotten better each tank full. Started out at 2 gal. per hour. I now pull that spreader and on the road a lot and it uses 1.28 GPH of fuel. That's pretty darn good for 87 hp and using about 80 of that when spreading.
My post is getting long and I'll stop here. Just wanted to report what I've seen so far and have had no problems with the tractor at all. It's been flawless. I think Deutz Fhar has put a lot of time and thought in those tractors to make them user friendly and dependable. I've used several models of JD tractors and have never seen one as smooth with the shuttle and shifting as this model is. Got a neighbor that's all JD all his years of farming and that's the first thing he said when he tried the Agroplus out. He was really impressed with the shifting and smoothness of it.
I'm just plumb tickled with this tractor.
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So I am going to look at a 1987 Deutz Fahr Dx 6.50. Anyone know much about this tractor, has less than 4k hrs on it. My guess is this would be water cooled. heard it gets great fuel economy which interests me particularly. How many hours will this beast run before I run into major failures?
At the DX 3 4 and 6 range Deutz had solved the probs they have had with the first DX, especially the DX 85/90/120, which have been known for the bad engines (DX85/90) and trannies.
The 6.50 had a stronger transmission and frontaxle. For normal they are good reliable tractors. Question is, how is the general shape of the tractor? How much preowners and on what a kind of operation he had runned. At last: A 140 hp tractor never has been used as a Toy.
At 4000 hrs now, I donｴt guess, that you will wear out the tractor that fast. Yes and the Deutz engines have been known for fuel economy. The 6.50 has the BF6L913 engine and this is an aircooled.
The 6.50 had a stronger transmission and frontaxle. For normal they are good reliable tractors. Question is, how is the general shape of the tractor? How much preowners and on what a kind of operation he had runned. At last: A 140 hp tractor never has been used as a Toy.
At 4000 hrs now, I donｴt guess, that you will wear out the tractor that fast. Yes and the Deutz engines have been known for fuel economy. The 6.50 has the BF6L913 engine and this is an aircooled.
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We have used Deutz and other SDF tractors extensively for the past 20 years on out farm.
When we farmed in N.Ireland 3 and more year agos we always owned SDF tractors and ever since our move that is all we've used.Over the years we rented,bought and tried out other makes and we never found a tractor as inexpensive,fuel efficient and reliable.
Our current fleet is underdoing a renewing after using a mixture of deutz,lamborghini and new hollands.
We currently have kept our farm operation afloat with a Agrotron M640,Agrotron K110 and Agrofarm 100.These tractors are all temporary until our new Agrotron M650's and Agrotron L720's come fresh from the factory.
We have scouted out the area for dealers of other makes and couldnt find a dealer who could guarantee us a tractor as cheap as a Deutz.
Overall I am more than satisfied with them.
When we farmed in N.Ireland 3 and more year agos we always owned SDF tractors and ever since our move that is all we've used.Over the years we rented,bought and tried out other makes and we never found a tractor as inexpensive,fuel efficient and reliable.
Our current fleet is underdoing a renewing after using a mixture of deutz,lamborghini and new hollands.
We currently have kept our farm operation afloat with a Agrotron M640,Agrotron K110 and Agrofarm 100.These tractors are all temporary until our new Agrotron M650's and Agrotron L720's come fresh from the factory.
We have scouted out the area for dealers of other makes and couldnt find a dealer who could guarantee us a tractor as cheap as a Deutz.
Overall I am more than satisfied with them.
EFC
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How do you like the new common rail diesel in your M640?
Buck
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Absolutely love it.
I was surprised how fuel efficient it was for 175horse power.
I don't have much work for the M640 to do except for moving snow right now.
By any chance are you a Deutz dealers?
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What do you think about the Agrofarm 100?
I have an Agrofarm 100 GS. A simple and nice tractor but it's a bit weak. It feels as the hand brake is on, all the time!
margerisons
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mines great
i use it on a diet feeder and also for oversowing grass seed.
i find it a great tractor and pretty cheap too
i use it on a diet feeder and also for oversowing grass seed.
i find it a great tractor and pretty cheap too
I have been looking for a new loader tractor and decided to wait untill after Farm Show (last week here in NY) and saw an impressive (to me anyway) AGROLUX 70. It looked well built, very rugged and price was good. The dealer is located about 40 miles away (north of here, he used to sell Farmtracs and I have heard good things about his operation). My question is would you recommend this tractor (or the 60) as a loader tractor that will also be used to run a mower conditioner and 4X5 round baler? Also your options of the AGROLUX series in gerenal. Thanks in advance.
EFC
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The new Agrolux 60 and 70 is built in the SAME Deutz-Fahr India factory. Currently the drive train and engines (Lamborghini designed 1000.3 Euro II WT3E) are built in Europe and shipped to India for assembly. We currently have no history on this model but the engine and front axle have been around for quite a while and are bullet proof. 4 wheel brakes are an option so if you want them make sure you order a tractor with them.
For loader work (back and forth) the wet clutch on the Agroplus (inverser trans) is preferred but for obvious reasons a bit more expensive. The turbo on the 70 hp model makes a big difference and is worth the extra $$.
Buck
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I think you may be mistaken on the transmission. According to Vijat Raina the only the engine in the new Agrolux is from Europe. The trans is built in India that is why it is an 4x2 collar shift not a 10x10 syncro shuttle. The lux 57,67 are European built completely.
Rob
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He would know, it is his baby. The original product was just assembled with the plan to build each piece step by step till it is 100% Indian, so it sounds like they are on their way. Not exactly a step up but it certainly lowers the price if that is what is most important.
Buck
