Cottage Carport

/ Cottage Carport #41  
When I looked at hiring moving companies to move from CA to TX, I read complaints about them changing the amount for the move after they had loaded up everything and hit the road. They would say that they bid the job for a certain amount of cubic space and once loaded, it turned out to be double that, or some larger amount of space. This meant that they wanted more money and if you didn't pay the increase, they would just hold your stuff until you did, plus storage fees. It was so common with so many moving companies that I hauled everything in three trips and put it into a storage unit in town until I was settled in.

It sounds like shipping companies do the same thing.
 
/ Cottage Carport #42  
Ouch, quite a bit to be off.
 
/ Cottage Carport #43  
Sodamo: sorry to hear that and best of luck. maybe you'll get versatube to split the difference or like BB says maybe the size grew once it was made ready for ship's voyage.
 
/ Cottage Carport #44  
When I looked at hiring moving companies to move from CA to TX, I read complaints about them changing the amount for the move after they had loaded up everything and hit the road. They would say that they bid the job for a certain amount of cubic space and once loaded, it turned out to be double that, or some larger amount of space. This meant that they wanted more money and if you didn't pay the increase, they would just hold your stuff until you did, plus storage fees. It was so common with so many moving companies that I hauled everything in three trips and put it into a storage unit in town until I was settled in.

It sounds like shipping companies do the same thing.

Keeping in mind just because a parcel has an area of X Square feet, because of its configuration (long and narrow, odd shaped etc)it may actually occupy X times 1.5 square feet of deck space.

By no means am I condoning the methods some shipping companies employ such as Eddie mentioned.

If I understand correctly the manufacturer provided dimensions and a shipping quote was provided based on this info?

Not always possible but it is best if the seller provides cost of shipping as an added cost in his request for payment.
 
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#45  
in some states, it's illegal to capture rainwater, you better check first!.. another odd but true fact!..

Would be many many thirsty people on this island and other if that was the case. I have read about that in various states. Makes me wonder if someone has rain/storm damaged property the state steps right up to assume responsibility to repair damage caused by their water.

The carport roof is augmenting the existing catchment that has been there since 2005. Only 3k gal storage at cottage vs 16k gal at main house.
 
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#46  
Update on shipping.
DHX reduced my invoice by about $190. Great on their part as they didn’t have to. Their estimate was based on the info I provided as provided to me by Versatube. I somewhat believe this is on the Versatube salesman to prevent loss of the sale. As can be seen in pics posted in post below, no way this could have been packed any better or smaller. Excellent job. The DHX reduction was pretty much a wash as it cost me $188 to get delivery. Have to admit I would have been quite irritated to get to local shipper expecting 2 10ft crates to find crates 129” and 160”. No way I could have hauled with my trailer.

Too many bad stories about shipping out there. I have received excellent service with DHX over the years and always have them ship to same local agent. I can’t see how Versatube could have benefitted from the increased cost (except not losing the sale) as I pay DHX separately.
 
/ Cottage Carport #47  
I am in agreement given the circumstances. It is on the Versatube salesman for providing grossly inaccurate dimensions.
 
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#48  
Carport was delivered a bit earlier than expected, a good thing.

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A job for my LS XR4140 with pallet forks.
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Shorter crate put in place near tractorshed, time to get the longer one
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Tractor was a tad light in rear, wish I hadn’t taken off backhoe. Moved low and slow, never a problem.

Even through longer crate showed some damage it was strictly to the crate, inner packing not disturbed and no damage to items.

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Still have to inventory and separate into useable stacks.

First task after that will be finding the base rails and figure my modification for extended wall height.

First impression - nice solid kit. Looking forward to putting it together over next few weeks.
 
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/ Cottage Carport #49  
Sodamo: glad to hear you got it to the cottage and sounds like you've got a good relationship with your shipper. good luck!!
 
/ Cottage Carport #50  
Congrats David. You now have one giant erector set to play with! Have fun!
 
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#51  
Giant erector set - my thought as well.
 
/ Cottage Carport #52  
in some states, it's illegal to capture rainwater, you better check first!.. another odd but true fact!..

Very true. You could probably get in trouble by leaving a bucket out in the rain in some states.
 
/ Cottage Carport #53  
in some states, it's illegal to capture rainwater, you better check first!.. another odd but true fact!..

That comment caught my attention since I'm a member of several watershed regulatory boards. If you know that much about capturing rainwater, you probably already know that rainwater harvesting is not only legal in most of the lower 48, but is encouraged in many.... probably in most.

Colorado does have an old rainwater law interpretation on the books from the 1800s. It's vague, and dates back to the Wild West and Gold Rush days.

Yes, the law is still valid but is no longer enforced - I don't know if that one ever was. Today it seems to exist mostly as a history lesson - and is likely to remain there because it makes such a good story to be passed down at water board meetings.

I'm sure that there are other states that have similar out-dated regulations still on the books. Our local town has some real interesting old ordinances about keeping livestock in town. For example there is one that puts a limit on how many hogs a homeowner can keep on on residential property in town.

In looking at those old laws and ordinances I am always struck by how activites back then tended to be limited rather than forbidden. That old law about hogs doesn't say that you can't raise hogs in your front yard, it just limits how many you can have at once. I believe it also says something about slaughtering on Sundays, too. And yes, that one is still valid as well.

Back to rainwater, that old Colorado law works the same way. It basically limits the amount of rainwater that you can keep stored in barrels at any one time. Today it's hard to understand why that mattered.... my guess is like a lot of things in Colordo it had to do with placer mining & gold panning.
rScotty
 
/ Cottage Carport #54  
That comment caught my attention since I'm a member of several watershed regulatory boards. If you know that much about capturing rainwater, you probably already know that rainwater harvesting is not only legal in most of the lower 48, but is encouraged in many.... probably in most.

Colorado does have an old rainwater law interpretation on the books from the 1800s. It's vague, and dates back to the Wild West and Gold Rush days.

Yes, the law is still valid but is no longer enforced - I don't know if that one ever was. Today it seems to exist mostly as a history lesson - and is likely to remain there because it makes such a good story to be passed down at water board meetings.

I'm sure that there are other states that have similar out-dated regulations still on the books. Our local town has some real interesting old ordinances about keeping livestock in town. For example there is one that puts a limit on how many hogs a homeowner can keep on on residential property in town.

In looking at those old laws and ordinances I am always struck by how activites back then tended to be limited rather than forbidden. That old law about hogs doesn't say that you can't raise hogs in your front yard, it just limits how many you can have at once. I believe it also says something about slaughtering on Sundays, too. And yes, that one is still valid as well.

Back to rainwater, that old Colorado law works the same way. It basically limits the amount of rainwater that you can keep stored in barrels at any one time. Today it's hard to understand why that mattered.... my guess is like a lot of things in Colordo it had to do with placer mining & gold panning.
rScotty

As of 2016, Colorado passed a law that allows residential users to store and use up to 110gal of rainwater for outdoor purposes. Prior to passage of that specific law, it was strictly illegal without proper water rights. Rainwater Collection in Colorado - 6.77 - Extension
 
/ Cottage Carport #55  
As of 2016, Colorado passed a law that allows residential users to store and use up to 110gal of rainwater for outdoor purposes. Prior to passage of that specific law, it was strictly illegal without proper water rights. Rainwater Collection in Colorado - 6.77 - Extension

I'm aware of that. Enforcement - or not - will be interesting. It's not really about water as much as the big business of water ownership. This is all western water-rights ownership law, which is applied differently from other models.... and is still very much in the process of being developed.
As of yet there are no water cops.
So..... do you keep hogs?
rScotty
 
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#57  
No need to measure Dale, crates where not even close to size I was provided. I think a combination of their design software not having correct packaging compounded by salesman. Even the inventory printout listed 10ft crating. Looking at the parts inventory, at least 4 line items are 120” or greater, which is logical for a 31ft structure. If I had that inventory before maybe I would have caught it and questioned.
 
/ Cottage Carport #58  
Sodamo: I hear you've been doing a fair amount of prep work on your carport so I thought I'd bump up your thread and see if maybe I could remind you to take a few pictures and post up a few with your comments cause your build might be something i'd like to do too.

good luck!!
 
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#59  
Thanks Drives
Will attempt to get a better pic today and post an update. Slowly making progress.
 
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#60  
Some good progress today on carport.

Rather than attempt welding galvanized with my meager skills, opted to go with bolts and gussets for my mod. Header bolted into place. For some reason getting all the holes (4 surfaces) proved a bit challenging

Still have legs 3 & 6 to attach. The brackets I have are beefy enough and will work nicely but need to find more appropriate gussets tomorrow. And more self drilling screws. Looks like the bag I ordered is taking a breather in Honolulu, maybe will be here tomorrow before I go to town.

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