Corona Virus #6

[lostcreekranch]

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Gov. DeWine: FDA’s ‘reckless’ decision limits Battelle’s PPE mask sterilizing technology to only 10k a day | NBC4 WCMH-TV

Hard to escape the potential political aspects/ramifications of that type of a decision ... looks like extortion/blackmail ...

OTOH, never underestimate the possibility that this "limiting decision" was orchestrated ... in order for a "white knight" to come riding to the rescue ...

#neverletacrisisgotowaste

As usual your linked article’s “sensationalized headline” doesn’t match the contents of the article.

Maybe you should read beyond the headline occasionally ... before making your snarky comments?

 

[Gale Hawkins]

As usual your linked article’s “sensationalized headline” doesn’t match the contents of the article.

Maybe you should read beyond the headline occasionally ... before making your snarky comments?

That is to be expected since the article writer and the writer of the headlines typically are two different people that may not even know each other. Anyone reading newsprint for medical info is grasping at straws. The writer of the piece often is trying to explain something they do no remotely understand. The writer of the headline is writing to enhance sales volume.

 

[rswyan]

As usual your linked article’s “sensationalized headline” doesn’t match the contents of the article.

Maybe you should read beyond the headline occasionally ... before making your snarky comments?

Uh-huh ...

From the article, a direct quote of Governor Dewine:

"The FDA’s decision to severely limit the use of this life-saving technology is nothing short of reckless," said DeWine in the statement. "Battelle’s innovative technology has the capability to protect healthcare professionals and first responders in Ohio and across the country, but in this time of crisis, the FDA has decided not to support those who are risking their lives to save others. This is a matter of life and death. I am not only disappointed by this development, but I’m also stunned that the FDA would decline to do all it can to protect this country’s frontline workers in this serious time of need."

 

[lostcreekranch]

That is to be expected since the article writer and the writer of the headlines typically are two different people that may not even know each other. Anyone reading newsprint for medical info is grasping at straws. The writer of the piece often is trying to explain something they do no remotely understand. The writer of the headline is writing to enhance sales volume.

And some never read beyond the hyped headline?

 

[rswyan]

That is to be expected since the article writer and the writer of the headlines typically are two different people that may not even know each other. Anyone reading newsprint for medical info is grasping at straws. The writer of the piece often is trying to explain something they do no remotely understand. The writer of the headline is writing to enhance sales volume.

You may wish to take rlgustafson's advice ... and actually read the article ... :thumbsup:

Preferably before the next gas lighting attempt ...

 

[locknut]

Lots of misinformation here. I'll make comments in capital letters. Not meaning to scream. And, while I am sure the physician at Hopkins knows a lot, something must have been lost in translation.

Thanks for the additional comments on that report. Are you familiar with the reports of hydroxychloroquine+ZPAK,or other antiviral drugs as a remedy for this disease,especially in early and mid-stage progression? Here's the latest report from France and a Dr here in NY.

Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin as a treatment of COVID-19: results of an open-label non-randomized clinical trial - ScienceDirect

Giuliani interviews Dr. Zelenko on Covid-19 treatment… – CITIZEN FREE PRESS

 

[wheelbuilder]

Oh, I understand that. But I don't have hospitalizations figures and cant' really track things.

I don't know that we're ever going to have good data on this. Some folks go to the doctor for every wheeze or hurt, some don't go until they need an undertaker on standby. (And sometimes this means skipping the Doc entirely)

 

[Gale Hawkins]

And some never read beyond the hyped headline?

And some know what follows the headline is not worth reading if it is going to be taken hook, line and sinker. I have not read one article over the last six weeks concerning COVID-19 that was proofed for a medical test book. They are full of misunderstandings and out right errors.

This is why reading the news in print or digital formats is basically a waste of time if one is going to take the info as something to be acted upon. Grasp at straws long enough and one can actually come up with a usable bale of straw.

 

[MossRoad]

BINGO!

I WIN AGAIN!!! That's twice now.

 

[IslandTractor]

Thanks for the additional comments on that report. Are you familiar with the reports of hydroxychloroquine+ZPAK,or other antiviral drugs as a remedy for this disease,especially in early and mid-stage progression? Here's the latest report from France and a Dr here in NY.

Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin as a treatment of COVID-19: results of an open-label non-randomized clinical trial - ScienceDirect

Giuliani interviews Dr. Zelenko on Covid-19 treatment CITIZEN FREE PRESS

Very familiar with those reports. Unfortunately they really are pretty much useless in assessing whether chloroquine or azithromycin are helpful at all. The way to determine that would be to randomly assign patients to receive either the experimental treatment or a placebo and then follow for outcome. They didn't do that. They didn't even use very ill patients with a high expected mortality. The outcome therefore is likely to be no different for the patients who were given the experimental drugs than what would have been expected with no therapy.

I'm sure there are good studies underway now (or starting shortly) and we'll just have to wait a while for results. It shouldn't take long to do an appropriate blinded placebo controlled trial in someplace like NYC or NOLA given the number of new infected patients each day.

I feel bad for the poor guy who died after taking aquarium pills when he got excited by what POTUS was shooting from the hip about in his daily briefing a few days ago. That is exactly why hypotheses should NOT be touted by politicians before being evaluated by scientists. We don't need 18 months to answer this particular question by the way....it should take a total of about 500 patients followed for a few weeks to give a preliminary useful answer in this setting. A few weeks might seem like a long time but it is really quite quick. Otherwise you might as well shoot at a dart board or flip a coin.