Contingency Planning

[Anonymous Poster]

Trev: Surprised to see this thread on TBN. Suggest you don't think too much about it. You don't want to know what it would really be like. Ranchman has it right. It would be nasty. The entire economic system of production & distribution is based on a system of monetized debt, i.e. the money you use came into being as debt and can never be paid back. When that collapses, and it will, it will be nasty, triggered by [you fill in the blank]. I see posts suggesting saving water, canned goods etc. Do that if it makes you feel better. You don't need water, a jug of bleach will do the same thing (or, silver ion filters). Bob DePugh was on the FBI most wanted for years until he turned himself in-dry dog food is cheap and well balanced says he. Trev, you don't want to know. In Petrograd 60 years ago they ate people-human flesh was a valuable commodity after the horses and rats were gone. How long will the hunting for game last with hordes fleeing the cities? Days at most. Trev, you don't want to know. If there is still a government around they will be grabbing everybodies stuff who had the foresite to prepare. You don't want to know. If you really want to get a sense of what you would need to prepare for, try renting the movie Boy & His Dog. Or read Pournelle's Lucifer's Hammer, or Wydom's Day of the Triffids, or, Brunner's The Sheep Look Up, or, Christopher's excellent No Blade of Grass. If you want a picture of a deliberate destruction of the economic system read Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged. But, Trev, you don't want to know. Preparing for a few days of power outage is simple. But "contingency planning" for any sort of real breakdown is another ball game, and, you don't want to know. Enjoy your tractor, your family, your life and don't think too much about what is coming. Just hope it's after you're gone. If I may paraphrase Mr. Freud, the purpose of life is to maximize your yield of pleasure while minimizing the cost in pain. JEH

 

[Anonymous Poster]

"under funded, under appreciated, but very dedicated Armed Forces. Forces known and respected in every major conflict."
[censored] straight! And, I might add, they do cut a handsome figure in their Kilts.
Now, if only they can get their decrepid equipment off one cargo ship, and back onto a second, along with a sufficient supply of bailing wire, they will be a force to be reconed with.

As far as burning the White House, would you be up for a contract to burn the Congress this time, with all members inside?
IRS has a nice combustable building too, could we arrange a combined package?

 

[rancar]

JEH...

Man....you are a depressing fellow. Here Trev is asking a legitimate question about preparing for hard times ahead. And you're telling him more or less to forget about....you more or less say Trev would do just as good by sticking his head in the sand. What are you...some kind of authority or expert in all this? Who's going to forego saving a few bottles of water for the sake of procuring a bottle of bleach. What's Trev going to do?....drink it. Then, you suggest he might just forget about storing up canned goods and think instead about eating human flesh.

Man, there sure is a reason why you call yourself the grimreaper. If we all listened to you, we'd all be in the grave.

 

[RanchMan]

Grimreaper -

<font color=blue>try renting the movie Boy & His Dog.</font color=blue>

How about The Road Warrior? /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

 

[ejb]

>>Who's going to forego saving a few bottles of water for the sake of procuring a bottle of bleach.

Not going to comment on the rest of his comments (I agree with some and not others), but the purpose of the bleach is to disinfect any water you need to. i.e. you don't need to store up a lot of clean water, you can make it when you need it. (unless you are in the desert I guess).

Bleach, and a lot of it, is a handy thing to keep on the list of things to keep around for tough times. Serves lots of purposes and is cheap and never goes bad.

 

[MossRoad]

Trev,
Here's one more thing for your list. A supply of multi-vitamins, like one-a-day, flintstones, etc... Since you appear to be genuinely concerned about the what-ifs, in a major catastrophe, your food supply could eventually dwindle down to stuff that contains little nutritional value, like grass and twigs(just kidding). One multi vitamin per person per day could make a difference. Especially if meats, fresh fruits and vegetables become scarce due to wide spread power outages that sometimes occur after large natural disasters( I'll choose to leave out the destruction of civilization for now) /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

My food stash consists of a few bottles of multi-vitamins, several hundred boxes of girl scout cookies, a crate of powdered milk and some bleach. I have a swimimng pool for water storage, and I can use the bleach to disinfect the water, before I make milk to have with the cookies. Pop a multi-vitamin, and I'm good to go /w3tcompact/icons/tongue.gif

 

[Trev]

Hi Grim,

<font color=blue> Suggest you don't think too much about it. You don't want to know what it would really be like.</font color=blue>

Oh, I know.. I've read Lucifer's Hammer (great book!!!) but, like I said, I'm not trying to create plans for a total meltdown.. just for something more like a week or maybe a month without power. If it goes beyond that, then I understand that all bets are off and it's Road Warrior time. /w3tcompact/icons/eyes.gif

Always meant to read Atlas Shrugged.. so many people have mentioned it.

Thanks,
Bob

 

[Trev]

<font color=blue>Here's one more thing for your list. A supply of multi-vitamins, like one-a-day, flintstones, etc...</font color=blue>

Great idea!!!! Thanks!

 

[utahmule]

Bob,

Read Atlas Shrugged, you won't regret it! After that try The Fountainhead, same author.

Off-topic: what ever happened with your foster kids? We just finalized the adoption of our son after 11months, 2 weeks of foster care. It was a good Xmas.

 

[Trev]

Hi Eric,

Congratulations on the kids!!!

Okay, I'll order the book today.. too many people rave about it! /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

<font color=blue>Off-topic: what ever happened with your foster kids? We just finalized the adoption of our son after 11months, 2 weeks of foster care. It was a good Xmas. </font color=blue>

We're in a bit of a holding pattern, while the bio-mom goes through all kinds of weird trips.. demanding this and that.. talking advice from a bozo lawyer, etc. The latest is she wants the kids to tell her to her face that they want to be adopted. That meeting is scheduled. It may be hard on the kids. I think this will all get sorted out, but it can be maddening in the meantime. Thanks for asking!

Best,
Bob