CK vs DK

KEROSENEDRVR · Feb 28, 2005

I've been looking at the CK30 for some time now. I have also looked at the DK series. Other than the overall weights, 3 point capacities, and a few ponies, what are the differences between the two models? It is my understanding that the DK series is the "heavy-duty" model, but comparing the CK30 to DK35 I don't see any major differences. I intend on using the tractor quite a bit and want to buy what will work the best.

shoppintractors · Feb 28, 2005

Along with the DK's much greater 3 point lift capacity, the DK will also carry a larger backhoe. The front end loaders also lift more weight and lift it higher than the CK30. Single remote hydraulic valve comes standard on the DK35. You would have the option to move up a size for three point implements like rear finish mowers and rotary cutters.

Complete specs are available at www.kioti.com

Don

KiotiJohn · Feb 28, 2005

One advantage, to me, of the CK30 is the sloping hood and curved loader arms. There is a little better visibility, not that it's a necessary thing, but I like it better than dog eared loaders.
If you want HST, there's no question as the DKs don't offer it.
I suspect you can pull all the mower size you'd need with the CK30, not knowing really what you will need to do.
Either of these models would be a good choice, it's more a matter of whether you need the extra 5 HP, and what price you want to pay. I'd go with the one that you're most comfortable with. I do love the platform operators station on the CK30, and it's plenty powerful from my test runs. John

DK35vince · Feb 28, 2005

Let us know what you plan to do with the tractor so we can give better advice.

KEROSENEDRVR · Feb 28, 2005

Quick responses, awesome...I've got a little 13 acre spread. I'll be doing lots of irrigation (backhoe work) lots of mowing, some rototilling, and lots of grading of my gravel road. I've got about a 3 mile road to maintain. I've borrowed a friends LARGE orange tractor with a landplane to grade my road. Is there such a thing as a landplane of the appropriate size for our 30-45 hp machines?

Noodlearm · Feb 28, 2005

By the sounds of the chores you have to do, I would look at the DK45. When I was shopping, the price really seemed to be a bargain, not much more than the 35 or 40 and quite a bit cheaper than moving up to the 55. You get a nice increase in all capabilities with the 45 over the 35 and obviously the CK30 but, as notes you lose the HST option. DK45 is generally considered big for 13 acres but your list of chores seems to justify it (3 miles road, and lots of backhoe work). That being said, I love my CK30. Anyway, have fun shopping.

depratt_equip · Feb 28, 2005

( One advantage, to me, of the CK30 is the sloping hood and curved loader arms )

Just an FYI: Just found out the other day that Rhino is now offering a cureved arm loader that fits the DK35. I haven't put one on yet but plan on ordering one pretty soon. Hope they continue to offer more curved arm loaders for the larger tractors.

DK35vince · Feb 28, 2005

I do everything you mentioned ( on 15 acres) with a DK 35 with loader and Rhino 85 backhoe and it does it quite well. I don't have 3 miles of road to maintain, but I imagine I could if needed !!
I'm not sure what a landplan is.. I use a 6' boxblade or 7' backblade for grade work..

KEROSENEDRVR · Feb 28, 2005

Vince, does your DK35 have a float capability on the hydraulics. In other words, can you float your box or blade?

KEROSENEDRVR · Feb 28, 2005

A landplane, in laymans terms, is a pull type blade with wheels on the back, and a hydraulic system to raise and lower the blade. It is an extremely stable blade, capable of very nice, even, smooth grading.

DK35vince · Feb 28, 2005

( Vince, does your DK35 have a float capability on the hydraulics. In other words, can you float your box or blade? )

Most all compact tractors have no down pressure on the 3 point hitch, the weight of the implements is the down pressure.
So the answer is yes it floats.
I add weights to my implements if needed..
I also added hydraulic rear remotes to the tractor, a hydraulic top link and hydraulic tilt cylinder to my 3 point hitch so I can adjust how agressive my boxblade/backblade digs in from the tractor seat while on the go.

BigAl · Feb 28, 2005

Go with the DK series . Great tractor !!! I have the DK45TLB and 50 acre ranch to use it on . It just works like crazy ! Are you planning on doing a little side job work with it also ? To me the DK is a more serious tractor for different work applications , but that is just my opinion . I know I have put my DK through some extreme use and it handled it fine . Years ago we had a tractor man who had a small 8' land plane he used in landscaping . That thing worked great . He pulled it with a Ford 2 wheel drive tractor that was just a little bigger than a Ford 8N so I know a 4wd DK would do it .
Big Al

KEROSENEDRVR · Mar 2, 2005

What should I expect to pay for a DK35TLB??? I'm only looking for approximates as I know the price can vary across the country.
Also, I believe I read in this forum that the DK40 is basically on a DK35 chassis with a few more ponies but larger rear tires which reduce the top of tire/fender clearance, is this true??? Is there much difference in capabilities of the 35 vs 40???

Noodlearm · Mar 2, 2005

In terms of hydraulic output, I don't believe there is any difference between the 2. The 40 is taller, wider, slightly longer and has more ground clearance as you mentioned. Also, the 40 has 4 cylinders versus the 35's 3. The 45 is where you get the jump to more hydraulic output and greater lift capacities. On the kioti sight you can compare all the models that you wish against each other.

KEROSENEDRVR · Mar 5, 2005

Can somebody explain the differences in work ability between the CK30 and DK35? I know the DK has 5 more horsepower, but that shouldn't make a huge difference in abilities. Also, does the DK lift more, or pull much more than the CK? I'm gettin close to buying, still trying to make up my mind.

KiotiJohn · Mar 5, 2005

The CK30 has a PTO HP rating of 24HP, the DK35 is 28.3, not a lot, but a more powerful PTO, which would translate to a little more power to an implement.
The CK30 3pt lift capacity is 1754#, DK35 is 2425#.
With the DK35, you get position control, draft control and mixed. With the CK30 you only get position control.
The DK35 only comes in synchronized shuttle gear transmission, the CK30 in Hst/synchro shuttle.
As far as pulling etc. there isn't a great deal of difference, but if you need a little more PTO HP, and more lift capacity, the DK would be your best choice. Of course, if you want HST, you'll have to go CK30 as it's the largest thing Kioti offers with HST at this time.
You may prefer on style over the other as well with the CK having a sloped hood and curved arm loader, the DK having squared hood and dog leg loader arms. A little better visibility on the CK. Either will probably do most anything you'd need to do, not knowing exactly what it is you will be doing.
Go sit on them, and get a feel for how they fit you. It's a toss up in many ways. John

shoppintractors · Mar 5, 2005

Also, does the DK lift more, or pull much more than the CK? 

When you say "pull", do you mean like pulling a trailer? It's almost as important if not more, how much you can "stop", than how much you can "pull".

Don

KEROSENEDRVR · Mar 6, 2005

By pulling I meant, for instance a box or blade...

Does anybody have the inside scoop on when the DK35 will be remodeled? I see in one of the posts that the DK45 is undergoing a facelift? Will the DK35 be next??? And, if someone has the inside scoop, will it be available by this fall or next spring???

depratt_equip · Mar 7, 2005

I don't believe they will be re-doing the DK35 for a while. Sorry.

DK35vince · Mar 7, 2005

( I don't believe they will be re-doing the DK35 for a while. Sorry. )

When they do I want to see it availible with options like power shift, hydro, factory cab.. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif