BX25D engine brakign vid

[JOHNTHOMAS]

Your present Kubota key on your key ring. would have likely fit anything on the lot.

Recently bought a BX1500, older model BX which has a key closer to the size of the current Bs. Current BX and RTV uses a smaller key that won't fit a B or L. He has a new model BX2370 so his key would have fit the BX25D but not the B model. Barlows has security cameras all over his lot for those people that need tires, batteries and fuel while he is closed and starting a tractor during closed hours may be frowned at when bondsman shows up on Monday.

 

[LarJea]

I went and looked at the b2301's today at the dealer and compared them next to the bx25d and I found it odd the pedal on the larger b is stiffer to push and quicker to rebound. Not sure if or what that could mean just an observation. After messing with the b for 5 minutes I sat on the bx again and the HST pedal felt very smushy and soft.

The pedal on my B2601 seems stiff too, which is fine when pushing it to go forward but pushing down with my heel to go in reverse seems awkward because the reverse position of the pedal seems to far back. I'm starting to get used to it but don't know if my wife will like it yet, she's recovering from hip surgery so might be a problem.

 

[chucky79]

Recently bought a BX1500, older model BX which has a key closer to the size of the current Bs. Current BX and RTV uses a smaller key that won't fit a B or L. He has a new model BX2370 so his key would have fit the BX25D but not the B model. Barlows has security cameras all over his lot for those people that need tires, batteries and fuel while he is closed and starting a tractor during closed hours may be frowned at when bondsman shows up on Monday.

My guy has cameras too, but he also leaves a selection of models outside the gate for the weekend/after hour shoppers. I felt awkward walking around everything knowing they were closed so I sure as heck wasn't gonna start anything or move it!!

 

[chucky79]

The pedal on my B2601 seems stiff too, which is fine when pushing it to go forward but pushing down with my heel to go in reverse seems awkward because the reverse position of the pedal seems to far back. I'm starting to get used to it but don't know if my wife will like it yet, she's recovering from hip surgery so might be a problem.

I posted in another forum that I though the ergonomics felt better on the bx than the new b and the position of the pedal was the reason. I absolutely agree that reverse feels a little far back for my liking. Im sure I would get used to it just like you said and likey because im used to my bx but I did notice I have to actually lift my foot to revers even when sitting center on the treadle. Its so far back you cant rock your heal into that awkward position. You have to physically lift your foot and reposition to depress the reverse portion of the pedal. In my bx I simply have to rock my foot or lift my heal and turn in a little then step down. I also felt like the PTO engagement lever was a little tight on the drivers compartment. My leg was layin on it disengaged so im sure it would be even more uncomfortable when forward and engaged.

 

[k0ua]

My guy has cameras too, but he also leaves a selection of models outside the gate for the weekend/after hour shoppers. I felt awkward walking around everything knowing they were closed so I sure as heck wasn't gonna start anything or move it!!

I was just kidding about starting up any tractors on a lot.. Of course that would not be a good idea.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

Talked to Steve Barlow yesterday and asked if Kubota had sent a repair for the BX25D1 and he said they had not made any comments or acknowledgements as to it being wrong like they did with the abrupt stop in reverse BXxx50 series which just disappeared one day and became the BXxx60 series with no fix for the 50 series but the 60 series didn't stop abruptly in reverse.

 

[RaydaKub]

Tried my BX2230 last night. Low gear forward it coasted about 6 feet. Backward it left a skid mark, stopped in a foot and almost did a wheelie.
Forward in high coasted about 10 feet. There was a slight rev in engine rpms. Backward it coasted about 5 feet, which doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Some might think my pedal is sticky, but it's "normal" to me. Anyway, I can stop faster by rocking my foot than by coasting.

 

[chucky79]

Talked to Steve Barlow yesterday and asked if Kubota had sent a repair for the BX25D1 and he said they had not made any comments or acknowledgements as to it being wrong like they did with the abrupt stop in reverse BXxx50 series which just disappeared one day and became the BXxx60 series with no fix for the 50 series but the 60 series didn't stop abruptly in reverse.

Thanks for the update. Kinda makes me wonder if this hasn't been in the works for a while. The bx25 has had 3 series already. Bx25, Bx25D, and Bx25d-1. I know that none of this was over the stated issue but youre right, it might just become a bx26 suddenly or something else. Of course perhaps they haven't even acknowledged it yet either.....

Did they offer the 50 series owners any compensation or extra trade allowance during all that years ago? I wasn't around then so don't know....

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

Thanks for the update. Kinda makes me wonder if this hasn't been in the works for a while. The bx25 has had 3 series already. Bx25, Bx25D, and Bx25d

The BX25 was the previous series. Owned one for about 3 years and was a fine machine. Stopped when foot pedal was released like all other HSTs I've owned. This was the BXxx60 series. The BX24 was the BXxx50 series.
When Kubota started the BXxx70 series the BX25 became the BX25D and as previous threads have noted Kubota added a floor mat and changed it to BX25D-1 but maybe other hidden things were added then.
I traded in my BX2350 to a BX2660 and someone gave me an extra $500 whether it was Kubota or actually Barlows I don't know.

 

[millsan1]

To the OP. When the tractor is on a hill does it continue to roll down the hill with the brakes off but the HST is in stopped position ? If its on flat ground can it be pushed and have the wheels move? The problem you are having can't happen with a correctly operating HST. Its all about fluid flow to make the machine go, right? All the lever does it change flow of the fluid, faster slower front back. When its in neutral no fluid should be able to move so the wheels can't move. This older thread, even talks about the older bx24 tells you that if you have the HST in stop it can't move nor can it be moved. http://www.mytractorforum.com/76-cu...ompact-tractors/163871-kubota-push-towed.html

I had an issue with my JD 30+ years ago. The valve froze (rusted shut more like it) and I had a **** of time moving the machine. So to me, and I don't doubt you have some kind of issue, for some reason you must have some kind of 'internal fluid leak' between the pedal and the neutral setting on your gear. If I understand it correctly when you put kubota's in neutral you can tow them...is that correct? That would be the same as the valve I used. To me that is one way the machine could keep moving even when the pedal has it at stop. It appears its not a lot of fluid just enough to not stop immediately. The other is that some way the fluid is allowed to flow thru the valve controlled by the foot control, I can't fathom that one but hey anything is possible.

Or do I have this all wrong? Lets be honest this is serious safety issue. Other than steering or parked (actually I often forget) I don't use brakes on an hst because it just stops the machine. Frankly I remember wishing it would coast down some hills to make it go faster but it couldn't do that (I was younger and more foolish then) because of HST. Anyway my two cents to try to help.

I am not having an issue, per se. I just posted this to show what my machine does, in response to seeing many people complain about BX25s not stopping, etc.

I did some more tests. Low gear, full throttle, full speed to complete stop in 2-3 feet.

High gear, full throttle, full speed, to complete stop, 6 feet.

On the steepest parts of my proprty (30+ degree angle), she will creep, but never runs away or anything like that.