BX24 backhoe removal race

[Charlesaf3]

seriously, I'd love to see the M59 backhoe come on and off - its always easier to watch someone do it first!

 

[txkevin]

I'll do more... but I need some suggestions. I'm about out of ideas.

Mid Mount Mower ....

 

[Harry c]

55 seconds... and this was my first try. I am sure I could shave another 10-12 seconds off. Can anyone else do better? Perhaps we should do an online video competition?

YouTube - Removing the Kubota BX24 backhoe

Good job! I know lots of people are leary of trying to remove the attachments and I think the videos probably helped a lot.

I think the on-line competititions would be fun. I do think a couple of ground rules might be in order and also might better serve those watching from both practical and safety points of view.

The plastic caps are insignificant, but the BH was left in a dangerous position. The neighbor's 4 year old nephew could crush himself by pulling the wrong lever. Also, it will certainly leak down in a day or two.

I suggest the REMOVAL time start with the machine in normal driving position; boom full up, dipper stick retracted and bucket curled, outriggers full up, engine runnning or not, operator in seat or off. Timing stops when the attachment is removed and in a stable storage position; blocked, lowered to the ground, etc., so it doesn't fall when the levers are moved. Hydraulics re-attached as necessary. Any aids (blocks, hammers, winches, big sticks) should be at least 3 feet from the machine when the time starts. Also, no help.

The RE-INSTALL should start with the attachment in the same stable position, at least 3 feet from the tractor; and should end with the machine in the normal driving position.

I think that would be a more realistic representation of what most of us do and could possibly avoid someone's thinking that the video shows an appropriate storage position.

Personally, I think I'm pretty good with the FEL and BH and I'll see if I can match your times, but I still hate the MMM! Maybe I'll get that figured out soon. I've just decided there's really no good way to deal with the clumsy 3 pt hitch.

 

[Skyco]

The plastic caps are insignificant,

I'd have to disagree on that, in the video the hydro quick ends are thrown down bare, one little nick in the sealing area and you have a leak. Or a little dirt gets in and you have other problems. Call me **** but the plastic caps are very important to me, in fact the treatment shown of the hydro ends is one reason I hate to take my stuff to a dealer, I'm more careful than that..

 

[Harry c]

Skyco,
Sorry, I don't have strong feelings about the plastic caps one way or the other and would not presume to make such a judgement of the significance of the plastic caps for others. I was speaking from the point of an overall significance as related to a little on-line competition and a safe storage of the backhoe.

 

[Skyco]

Ok what part of "important to me" didn't make sense to you?

 

[Harry c]

Skyco,
I sincerely apologize (again). I understand the plastic caps are important to you. I thought the first post about the caps was a joke, (the big smiley face at the end of the sentance might have had something to do with that) since the BH was left suspended in the air and the only "foul" called was for the plastic caps.

BTW, I know the video was shot in Messick's lot under controlled conditions and nobody was about to let anything fall. I thought the video was fun and probably a real aid to those that had never removed the BH. I don't want to come off as being critical. I was just concerned that new owners that saw the video might assume that was the correct way to store the BH.

 

[Skyco]

Well as I said I'm **** about my equipment You'll notice in the video he chucks the hose ends over onto the metal plate floorboard and then as he drives off a hose is seen falling, don't know if it hit the ground since that is out of view, but I do know the cap wasn't on it
Sortof like the Jerky Lube guy who I fussed at when he sat the oil fill cap, interior side down on the dirty radiator support on my company car, then was gonna screw it back on with no telling what grit/dirt on it, now introduced to the inside of the motor . That car was only at Jerky Lube because they make me go there, my personal cars will never see one Did I mention I'm **** about stuff like that

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

You guys are kinda funny about the caps. Those couplers are very tollerant to dirt, grime and general abuse. You would not believe the amount of crap that many hydraulic connectors get covered in, yet they still work. We sell way more farm equipment than anything else, so when I say crap I literally mean inches of it.

I'm stewing on a good way to to several videos. What is up there now was a spur of the moment thing. We where actually out taking pictures of the process and thought, "hey we can just record this".

 

[Harry c]

Neil,
I thought the video was great. It seems like your idea of the on-line competition would be a way to have some fun with our tractors and learn something at the same time. My guess is that there would be some hilarious moments as well as some unique methods.

Anybody interested?

If anyone can install the MMM without rolling on the ground, I'd really like to see that!

 

[asylum575]

Neil,

The video was a great public/TBN community service. I removed my BH for the first time yesterday. The right side pin comes out easy, the left one needs an adjuster, aka hammer. Only thing I could think of is unlevel ground. I removed it on a patio block pad. Pretty level, but was just wondering, if your off just a hair, will it make it tough. The hoses come off easy.
Now for the reinstall in a couple of weeks, I imagine the BH will leak down. I guess I back in, install hoses and use the hydraulics to lift it in place. Is that right?

Thanks, Ed

PS Neil, I'll be out your way late August. I'll probably drop in to pick up 50 hr service supplies and look at the new models. Ohhhh, ahhh.

 

[ChuckinNH]

While it's nice to see how quickly it can be done, it would also be nice for new folks to see more clearly how it is done, and more clearly what things to look for.

 

[megaboz]

Taking the BH and FEL off is the easy parts. For that matter so is putting the BH on. The worst part is if you sit it on the ground, it is a bit of a pain to get lined up to get the hoses to reach. I usually just sit up on blocks.

The fun part is putting on that FEL when you don't have level ground. I spent over an hour one day, gave up and just about pushed the darn thing over the hill. The next day, drove up to it, connected the hoses and it was on in less than 5 minutes.

I have one issue with my FEL though. A bit odd. Sometimes the red hose wil not come off very easily or go on very easily. I've tried the bleed thing, but still have issues. But here is the weird part the red female will go right on any other male end, and any other female will go on the red male connector.

I've yet to figure this one out. I was about to call the dealer for new connectors, but since they work on every other connection and not on the red to red (sometimes it slips right on) I figured they would just laugh at me.

For the newbies, make sure you get that hose connected that is hanging off the tractor after taking the BH off. If you don't the hydraulics won't work. That's another one of those things I almost called the dealer about, I thought it was connected, but when I was trying to figure out why the FEL wouldn't raise, I finally found that it didn't slip in all the way.

 

[megaboz]

Neil,

The video was a great public/TBN community service. I removed my BH for the first time yesterday. The right side pin comes out easy, the left one needs an adjuster, aka hammer. Only thing I could think of is unlevel ground. I removed it on a patio block pad. Pretty level, but was just wondering, if your off just a hair, will it make it tough. The hoses come off easy.

If the tractor is leaning a bit, trying placing the out rigger down on the sied that is causing the issue and slightly raise it. Where I remove mine there is a slight hill, this usally balances thing out and takes the bind off. The tolerances are pretty tight.

Also, as a safety measure, I always lower my outriggers to the pint where they are just touching the gound just in case it would go to tip when I am taking it off. You never know when you might hit the wrong lever or hit it too hard. Especially helpful on the uneven ground too.

 

[Dirk Lately]

Well, I was able to remove my backhoe, attach an implement, and then reinstall the backhoe. This was the first time I've done any of this.

Removing the BH took around two hours; reinstalling it took about an hour. Hey, I'm delighted it worked at all! I can't describe the relief I felt when those pins went in.