BX2350 questions

[nightscape]

Hi all...after a couple of weeks of minor use so far, I have a couple of things to state/ask.
I have found that the seat safety switch is much too sensitive. Just leaning from one side to the other causes the motor to cut in and out. There are places where you have to lean for weight distribution in order to cut, that makes it difficult when you are left with the choice of rolling over or not being able to keep the engine running, therefore not being able to go there at all.
Is there any way to lessen the seat sensitivity?
When backing up, letting off on the HST pedal, you almost need a neck brace. It snaps your head back violently every time. This is very annoying to say the least. This does not happen when letting off on forward motion. The brake is not on. I would prefer the pedal was short enough that you could fit both your toe and heal on it at the same time, that would make it easier to be gentle on the let up when moving in reverse. It is also uncomfortable having to bend your leg backwards to push on the reverse pedal in the first place.
A couple of friends have had their kubota's stolen over the last few months. Oue dealer says that there is a theft system that they can install. Is anyone familiar with this system? How does it work? Is it worth it? The dealer has not given me a price yet.
I have also been talking to them about a grill guard. I wanted to put on the silver one that comes with the BX24, but the dealer said he didn't know if it will fit the 2350. $220 for the regular orange one and $260 for the silver one with a 4 week wait he says.
I originally wanted to get a front snowblower for it as well, but the dealer shocked me when he said that the blower with the required hitch kits was going to be over $4000.
I don't know what to do now.
Okay , I'll stop talking.

 

[nightscape]

Hi all...after a couple of weeks of minor use so far, I have a couple of things to state/ask.
I have found that the seat safety switch is much too sensitive. Just leaning from one side to the other causes the motor to cut in and out. There are places where you have to lean for weight distribution in order to cut, that makes it difficult when you are left with the choice of rolling over or not being able to keep the engine running, therefore not being able to go there at all.
Is there any way to lessen the seat sensitivity?
When backing up, letting off on the HST pedal, you almost need a neck brace. It snaps your head back violently every time. This is very annoying to say the least. This does not happen when letting off on forward motion. The brake is not on. I would prefer the pedal was short enough that you could fit both your toe and heal on it at the same time, that would make it easier to be gentle on the let up when moving in reverse. It is also uncomfortable having to bend your leg backwards to push on the reverse pedal in the first place.
A couple of friends have had their kubota's stolen over the last few months. Oue dealer says that there is a theft system that they can install. Is anyone familiar with this system? How does it work? Is it worth it? The dealer has not given me a price yet.
I have also been talking to them about a grill guard. I wanted to put on the silver one that comes with the BX24, but the dealer said he didn't know if it will fit the 2350. $220 for the regular orange one and $260 for the silver one with a 4 week wait he says.
I originally wanted to get a front snowblower for it as well, but the dealer shocked me when he said that the blower with the required hitch kits was going to be over $4000.
I don't know what to do now.
Okay , I'll stop talking.

 

[_RaT_]

Get more time with the HST pedals. I think in a short matter of time you will have a smooth transition in reverse. You do not want a pedal where your entire foot rests on it. The problem will be evident when you get onto some rough ground. If your reverse movement cannot be controled easily with your foot, I would suggest you have the tractor looked at, its very easy to control on HST. I have driven a BX22 which while different, would have some similarities.

 

[_RaT_]

Get more time with the HST pedals. I think in a short matter of time you will have a smooth transition in reverse. You do not want a pedal where your entire foot rests on it. The problem will be evident when you get onto some rough ground. If your reverse movement cannot be controled easily with your foot, I would suggest you have the tractor looked at, its very easy to control on HST. I have driven a BX22 which while different, would have some similarities.

 

[Lockport]

Greetings nightscape, and congrat's on the purchase.

First issue, seat safety switch. There is no way to alter its sensitivity. When I cut my ditch, although leaning, I make sure I am at the edge of the seat, but positively maintain my full body weight on the seat.

Second issue, reversing the tractor. With practice you will develop better control of your heel. Try reversing with your toe and, assuring it is a smooth transition, then try to match that same synchronisity with your heel.

Third issue, theft deterent? Never heard of it. Contact your home owners insurance and make sure you are covered. What more can I say. Maybe the dealer has an alarm system for tractors.

Fourth issue, the silver grill guard. I have the silver "BX" grill guard on my BX2230, but it seems to me the orange one was $90 and the BX23 model, which was the other model current to the BX2230 was over $200. They were interchangable The BX24 is likely the same frame. Ask the dealer to get one and if it doesn't fit return it to Kubota.

Final issue, the front mount snowblower. Yup, more expensive because of the hydraulic lift as oppsed to a 3PH mount which, obviously, has its own lift capabilities. Once you've acquired the forward hydraulic lift, you can put on a broom or blade and you're good to go. That being said, I have the front mount and the local dealer quoted me $5k. I think I eventually paid a little over $3k for mine and I did buy 75 miles away in the end as the local dealer was taking me to the bank. My guy ran it all out, made another trip for the ballast box, another for the block heater and grill guard (sent 2 guys and they forgot to take the orange guard back), a fourth as I purchased the alternator upgrade and never heard any suggestion of travel time costs. Rest assured I'll be back to buy from him!
Call around the province and get some quotes. Don't tell the out of area dealers you have already spoken to your local rep as they have explicit instructions from Kubota Canada about staying within their respective jurisdictions. Technically, that just means they cannot solicit sales outside of their area, but if you go to them, alls fair in love and war.

Good luck /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[Lockport]

Greetings nightscape, and congrat's on the purchase.

First issue, seat safety switch. There is no way to alter its sensitivity. When I cut my ditch, although leaning, I make sure I am at the edge of the seat, but positively maintain my full body weight on the seat.

Second issue, reversing the tractor. With practice you will develop better control of your heel. Try reversing with your toe and, assuring it is a smooth transition, then try to match that same synchronisity with your heel.

Third issue, theft deterent? Never heard of it. Contact your home owners insurance and make sure you are covered. What more can I say. Maybe the dealer has an alarm system for tractors.

Fourth issue, the silver grill guard. I have the silver "BX" grill guard on my BX2230, but it seems to me the orange one was $90 and the BX23 model, which was the other model current to the BX2230 was over $200. They were interchangable The BX24 is likely the same frame. Ask the dealer to get one and if it doesn't fit return it to Kubota.

Final issue, the front mount snowblower. Yup, more expensive because of the hydraulic lift as oppsed to a 3PH mount which, obviously, has its own lift capabilities. Once you've acquired the forward hydraulic lift, you can put on a broom or blade and you're good to go. That being said, I have the front mount and the local dealer quoted me $5k. I think I eventually paid a little over $3k for mine and I did buy 75 miles away in the end as the local dealer was taking me to the bank. My guy ran it all out, made another trip for the ballast box, another for the block heater and grill guard (sent 2 guys and they forgot to take the orange guard back), a fourth as I purchased the alternator upgrade and never heard any suggestion of travel time costs. Rest assured I'll be back to buy from him!
Call around the province and get some quotes. Don't tell the out of area dealers you have already spoken to your local rep as they have explicit instructions from Kubota Canada about staying within their respective jurisdictions. Technically, that just means they cannot solicit sales outside of their area, but if you go to them, alls fair in love and war.

Good luck /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[proudestmonkey]

On the seat belt sensitivity, I agree with you. Pull the seat forward and check to make sure there isn't anything blocking your seat from coming down all the way. Last weekend, I checked, and sure enough, there were some wires that had come loose from their bindings and had lodged under one of the springs of the seat, preventing it from going all the way down. I retucked them with new binding and that seemed to help. If anyone knows of any other way to reduce the sensitivity, I would also like to know.

I paid about $100 for the orange grill guard, installed.

On the snowblower, did you get the FEL? Some folks have said that an FEL with rear blade are good cheap alternative. You can also buy a rear snowblower (you back up to plow the snow) for between $1,000 and $1,500, or get one used for as little as $500. I will likely be getting a rear snowblower to save the money, at least until I can afford a front one.

 

[proudestmonkey]

On the seat belt sensitivity, I agree with you. Pull the seat forward and check to make sure there isn't anything blocking your seat from coming down all the way. Last weekend, I checked, and sure enough, there were some wires that had come loose from their bindings and had lodged under one of the springs of the seat, preventing it from going all the way down. I retucked them with new binding and that seemed to help. If anyone knows of any other way to reduce the sensitivity, I would also like to know.

I paid about $100 for the orange grill guard, installed.

On the snowblower, did you get the FEL? Some folks have said that an FEL with rear blade are good cheap alternative. You can also buy a rear snowblower (you back up to plow the snow) for between $1,000 and $1,500, or get one used for as little as $500. I will likely be getting a rear snowblower to save the money, at least until I can afford a front one.

 

[Charliebrn]

The reverse pedal sensitivity is a known issue, several people here have posted about it, and I've complained to my dealer as well, and even they have acknowledged that i'm not the only one unhappy about it. One story I've heard is that it's on purpose due to some litigation where someone backed into something. I suppose someone will come up with a fix for it.

And the seat switch can be disconnected entirely. Mine was so sensitive that I every time I stopped the engine would cough due to the weight on the switch changing. Also, I like to lean forward every now and then to check out what I'm about to destroy. The switch is at the right rear of the seat, and you'd need a jumper wire to bypass the switch. Of course, I'm NOT advocating you bypass a "safety" feature though... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[Charliebrn]

The reverse pedal sensitivity is a known issue, several people here have posted about it, and I've complained to my dealer as well, and even they have acknowledged that i'm not the only one unhappy about it. One story I've heard is that it's on purpose due to some litigation where someone backed into something. I suppose someone will come up with a fix for it.

And the seat switch can be disconnected entirely. Mine was so sensitive that I every time I stopped the engine would cough due to the weight on the switch changing. Also, I like to lean forward every now and then to check out what I'm about to destroy. The switch is at the right rear of the seat, and you'd need a jumper wire to bypass the switch. Of course, I'm NOT advocating you bypass a "safety" feature though... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[AceDeuce]

Simple solution to the safety switch problem... just start eating more junk food. In time, the switch won't be a problem anymore, AND you'll have more ballast! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[AceDeuce]

Simple solution to the safety switch problem... just start eating more junk food. In time, the switch won't be a problem anymore, AND you'll have more ballast! /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[HappyHillFarmer]

I too have had problems with the seat switch on my BX1850, it was cutting the engine off when my weight would shift forward in the seat when reversing or on a slope. My understanding is that the switch is a different type, 2 plates that push together, then found on previous BX models. I was able to adjust the the switch and stop the problem by loosening the 2 bolts that hold the unit to the tractor and pushing the plates/switch forward towards the front of the tractor as far as they would go, which was about a 1/8".

The HST pedal took a little getting use to in reverse, but I'm finally getting the hang of it, the owners manual should come with a whiplash warning. I rather like the split pedal, compared to single pedals I've used in the past.

 

[HappyHillFarmer]

I too have had problems with the seat switch on my BX1850, it was cutting the engine off when my weight would shift forward in the seat when reversing or on a slope. My understanding is that the switch is a different type, 2 plates that push together, then found on previous BX models. I was able to adjust the the switch and stop the problem by loosening the 2 bolts that hold the unit to the tractor and pushing the plates/switch forward towards the front of the tractor as far as they would go, which was about a 1/8".

The HST pedal took a little getting use to in reverse, but I'm finally getting the hang of it, the owners manual should come with a whiplash warning. I rather like the split pedal, compared to single pedals I've used in the past.

 

[bubblehead]

Hi All- new to the forum , Have only 15 hrs on my new BX2350. I had the same problem with the seat sensitivity on the saftey switch. The dealer came over and removed one of the two steel plates under the seat that activate the switch. (They are sandwiched together) Now it works fine even when I slide forward no problems and if i should get up it does what its supposed to do.

 

[bubblehead]

Hi All- new to the forum , Have only 15 hrs on my new BX2350. I had the same problem with the seat sensitivity on the saftey switch. The dealer came over and removed one of the two steel plates under the seat that activate the switch. (They are sandwiched together) Now it works fine even when I slide forward no problems and if i should get up it does what its supposed to do.

 

[nightscape]

Thanks all for your experiences and help. I am glad to hear that I am not alone with some of the things that bother me.
I will look into the seat switch. I hope I get used to the jarring stops in reverse. You can lessen it by lowering the throttle, but that can be harder on the tractor if it is straining with something.
We are finding out in the last few days, at least here in Ontario, that it seems there is an industry wide policy with the insurance companies, that they will not insure you for more than $5,000 against the loss of your tractor through your home owners policy. If you have a full replacement policy as I do, they will still only give you 5 grand for your tractor. Even if you are willing to add an extra rider, they will not accept it. If you are classed as an actual farm, then maybe, you can get the required coverage. Two other co-workers with tractors have had the same problem.
I am still working on this item.
I have put this to my insurance company and am waiting for a reply, probably tomorrow.
Has anybody else heard this?
Our dealer has said that there is a theft system that can be installed on the tractor. I have asked for the cost and how it works. Still waiting for an answer.
I'll let you know what I find out.

 

[nightscape]

Thanks all for your experiences and help. I am glad to hear that I am not alone with some of the things that bother me.
I will look into the seat switch. I hope I get used to the jarring stops in reverse. You can lessen it by lowering the throttle, but that can be harder on the tractor if it is straining with something.
We are finding out in the last few days, at least here in Ontario, that it seems there is an industry wide policy with the insurance companies, that they will not insure you for more than $5,000 against the loss of your tractor through your home owners policy. If you have a full replacement policy as I do, they will still only give you 5 grand for your tractor. Even if you are willing to add an extra rider, they will not accept it. If you are classed as an actual farm, then maybe, you can get the required coverage. Two other co-workers with tractors have had the same problem.
I am still working on this item.
I have put this to my insurance company and am waiting for a reply, probably tomorrow.
Has anybody else heard this?
Our dealer has said that there is a theft system that can be installed on the tractor. I have asked for the cost and how it works. Still waiting for an answer.
I'll let you know what I find out.

 

[_RaT_]

Glad to hear about some of the issues with the BX model. I have yet to try one but will indeed pay attention to the reverse problem that you guys are experiencing. With over a thousand hours now on a HST tractor(s), I have a good feel for what I think it should be like. If it is as rough as you say, I may just pass on the Kubotas and look at the others. Any idea what JD, NH, Massey models compare to the Kubota BX 2350?

 

[_RaT_]

Glad to hear about some of the issues with the BX model. I have yet to try one but will indeed pay attention to the reverse problem that you guys are experiencing. With over a thousand hours now on a HST tractor(s), I have a good feel for what I think it should be like. If it is as rough as you say, I may just pass on the Kubotas and look at the others. Any idea what JD, NH, Massey models compare to the Kubota BX 2350?