Bucket hooks

[BlueKnife]

although maybe a grapple would change my perspective on that one.

It would, I promise. They're not cheap though, so not necessarily worth it for someone who wouldn't use it regularly.

 

[WinterDeere]

It would, I promise. They're not cheap though, so not necessarily worth it for someone who wouldn't use it regularly.

I'd use it quite a bit, as I'm processing an obscene amount of wood, sometimes more than 20 cords per year. But with it comes a lot of weight added to the loader, height issues, storage, cost. If I bought a grapple to add to my forks, I'd almost have to buy and store a second set of forks, since I also use those forks for lifting and loading tall pallets of product for my business. At least for my particular situation, the cons seem to outweight the pros.

 

[dodge man]

I agree, bucket hooks aren’t exactly taking the world by storm in innovation. One reason I bought mine from Kenny’s Bolt On Hooks is he is somewhat active on this forum and very active on the Green Tractor forum. Whenever someone like Kenny is active on a forum he has to walk a fine line between self serving posts just to sell his products and actually trying to help posters out. He does a pretty good job of that.

 

[Jstpssng]

This thread reminded me, and I just ordered a set to go on my MTL grapple. They may end up on my bucket instead though. It has a center hook, but often when lifting two are advantageous to keep things from twisting.
I don't trust my welding skills enough for safety items, so why take a chance on second rate products.

 

[Yander]

I put mine over where the bucket attaches because it was reinforced there on the backside of the bucket, you can see in this pic. I love having them on. I believe it is much safer using the hooks when using a chain to move heavy implements etc. because of reduced chance of the chain slipping.

I have another set I need to get on my other tractor. I'll probably get some stainless bolts and replace them as they are rusting.

 

[Torvy]

On a loader with 1600 lb. lift, that stupid bucket is eating up 25% of my capacity... and most of your CUT's have less lift capacity than that.

I think maybe you haven't checked out other brands. Most of the other brands have lift capacities between 2000-3000 lbs. on FEL.

SCUTs have those lower lift capacities.

 

[Xfaxman]

My bucket hook is unique. The hole was already there:

 

[WinterDeere]

I think maybe you haven't checked out other brands. Most of the other brands have lift capacities between 2000-3000 lbs. on FEL.

I don't know what you're smoking, but I think you're confusing boom breakout force with lift capacity. Not even remotely the same thing.

If "most of the other" brands have full height or 60-inch lift capacities of 2k - 3k pounds at 33 hp, please list them here. It's going to be a short list, if any.

SCUTs have those lower lift capacities.

Please, again... show us this list of SCUT's that have lift capacities at 1600 lb.

If such a thing existed, I think I'd be afraid to drive it.

 

[BlueKnife]

I don't know what you're smoking, but I think you're confusing boom breakout force with lift capacity. Not even remotely the same thing.

If "most of the other" brands have full height or 60-inch lift capacities of 2k - 3k pounds at 33 hp, please list them here. It's going to be a short list, if any.

I wondered about that. My 40+ HP wheel loader can lift a bit over 3000 lbs with pallet forks. A compact tractor that could do that would be impressive indeed. I know I've never seen such a thing, and I've been working with and around tractors large and small for 30 years.

 

[jyoutz]

I put mine over where the bucket attaches because it was reinforced there on the backside of the bucket, you can see in this pic. I love having them on. I believe it is much safer using the hooks when using a chain to move heavy implements etc. because of reduced chance of the chain slipping.

I have another set I need to get on my other tractor. I'll probably get some stainless bolts and replace them as they are rusting.

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I think grade 8 bolts have greater strength than stainless and grade 8 won’t rust either.

 

[BlueKnife]

I think grade 8 bolts have greater strength than stainless and grade 8 won’t rust either.

Grade 8 is significantly stronger than stainless. It will rust, but it would have to rust for a very long time, like decades or longer, to get down to the strength of an equivalent sized stainless bolt.

 

[Jstpssng]

I wondered about that. My 40+ HP wheel loader can lift a bit over 3000 lbs with pallet forks. A compact tractor that could do that would be impressive indeed. I know I've never seen such a thing, and I've been working with and around tractors large and small for 30 years.

My 33hp compact weighs about 3000 lbs... there's no way I'd have that much weight sticking out in front. The rears come off the ground too often as it is...

 

[jyoutz]

I don't know what you're smoking, but I think you're confusing boom breakout force with lift capacity. Not even remotely the same thing.

If "most of the other" brands have full height or 60-inch lift capacities of 2k - 3k pounds at 33 hp, please list them here. It's going to be a short list, if any.


Please, again... show us this list of SCUT's that have lift capacities at 1600 lb.

If such a thing existed, I think I'd be afraid to drive it.

I’ve never seen a 30+ hp tractor that would be heavy enough or have a large enough frame to lift 2-3k pounds.

 

[WinterDeere]

I think grade 8 bolts have greater strength than stainless and grade 8 won’t rust either.

Yes. Even 18-8 stainless is only 70 ksi tensile strength, and something like 30 ksi yield strength. Most other stainless alloys are even worse than that. Totally fine, if sufficiently sized, do your fastener math accordingly.

I'd suspect grade 5 probably hits the sweet spot, for mounting bucket hooks. It has some yield, where grade 8 can just snap under shock loading. And I'd also bet grade 5 will exceed the strength of all the materials around it, namely your bucket lip, meaning anything with higher tensile strength is unnecessary overkill.

 

[chim]

My L4240:

2,489 lbs lift (full at pin)
1129 kg
1,878 lbs lift (full at 500mm)
851 kg

 

[Torvy]

My 55 HP (turbo 48) has 2700 lb to 9ft. I made a spreadsheet with 14 makes and about 4 models per make. Few approached 3000, but almost all were at ir above 2000. Breakout

I'm traveling now, but I'd be happy to post them all when I get home.

Here are the spec on my loader.

 

[WranglerX]

If bolts are rusting that is natures way of keeping them tight..... My grade 8's (yellow cadmium plated) have been in weather for 7 years and no rust yet....

 

[Jstpssng]

I just had an email exchange with the President. (Of Ken's Bolt-ons ) He asked why I gave my street address but asked to have them shipped to my mailing address.

Doi!!!! The answer of course is... good question!

Try that with Vevor, and I bet you won't hear from the company owner!

 

[WinterDeere]

My L4240:

2,489 lbs lift (full at pin)
1129 kg
1,878 lbs lift (full at 500mm)
851 kg

That's good, but really no more relevant than looking at the lift capacity of Hay Dude's monsters. The comparison was a 33 hp Deere 3033R, not a machine with literally 35% more horsepower and weight.

 

[WinterDeere]

My 55 HP (turbo 48) has 2700 lb to 9ft.

Exactly. To get near 3k lift capacity, you're going to be looking at 50 hp machines, not 30 hp machines. No matter what the brand.