Bolt on bucket teeth

[Oldpath05]

Titan was all sold of their teeth kits so I bought these>>6 Toothbar Shanks, Teeth, & Pins, For Loader Buckets, 23, 23SP, D5175, TF23D | eBay
Then bought this>> Titan Attachments 72" Custom Toothbar Kit Skid Steer Excavator Kubota Bobcat DIY 498262188 | eBay

Then I put the two together, course the way I do stuff I had do it three times. Since this wasn't a one brand kit, the tooth shanks I thought didn't go back enough on the 1/2"x4" flat bar, so with me and my bright ideas I decided to champfer/tapper the front edge of the flat bar to get the shanks back another 1/2"-ish, I know what a waste of time. So idea mistake No.1, I started to sand and grind the tapper but it was taking to long, mistake 2> I decided to cut the tapper with acetylene torch, it was rough but got it then smooth out the tapper with grinder then laid it on the bucket, clamped down and tacked a shank on each end and called it a night.

Wanted to finish it Sat morning, went out to the shop and happen to look down the length of it on bucket and noticed the bend, cutting the tapper on that flat bar bent the bar 1" in 5', wow couldn't believe that. So since I like straightness the only option was to cut it in 2 places, clamped the crap out of it on top of two angle bars and welded the it back together, back to a straight bar again.

Then clamped back down on bucket, tacked the two bolt-on bars at each end and shanks , mistake 3> I put 1/16 gap on the bolt-on bars at each end, un-clamped the bar for test fit, it went on and off to hard so I cut one shank and bolt-on bar off and shorten another 1/8", put back on with 1/8" spacers on both ends, clamp down and re-tack the bolt-on bar and shank back on, NOW it slides on and off good. So now did the math to spaced out the other 4 shanks and tacked them on flat bar. Then drilled out the holes at each end and bolted together.

Now this I thought might happen, with the flat bar all clamped down and bolted, welded all the shanks, let cool then take off. When it came off the flat bar curled up about 3" from the welding, more then I thought so flipped it over, clamped and heated the flat bar up in two places, got it back down to about 1/2" curl, close enough. Set it back on, put a 1/4" spacer on one end so not to bend bucket, tight it all up. The moral of the story is dont tapper the edge of a 1/2" x4" flat bar with acetylene torch.

 

[Oldpath05]

 

[Oldpath05]

We found that the best way to get these pins in is vice grips and hammer with never seize that wont seize for at least 2 months. Did some test digging and the teeth sure do make a difference, highly recommend bucket teeth, just dont put them on the same way I did.

 

[areid]

I found many times I needed something more to make my bucket work better. I welded up some teeth and I certainly can dig into and move manure better. I realize now that my teeth are upside down but they still work. Being a cheapskate I only used old steel I had lying around. As you can see, the steel plates I used on the underside are from exercise equipment. Finally I decided to bolt the unit on with two 1/2 bolts through the bottom of the bucket. Because my teeth are sloped down I cannot dig really well in hard clay but then again its still better than with a flat edge bucket.

 

[kenmbz]

We found that the best way to get these pins in is vice grips and hammer with never seize that wont seize for at least 2 months. Did some test digging and the teeth sure do make a difference, highly recommend bucket teeth, just dont put them on the same way I did.

Overall they look aggressive. Very nice.

 

[kenmbz]

I found many times I needed something more to make my bucket work better. I welded up some teeth and I certainly can dig into and move manure better. I realize now that my teeth are upside down but they still work. Being a cheapskate I only used old steel I had lying around. As you can see, the steel plates I used on the underside are from exercise equipment. Finally I decided to bolt the unit on with two 1/2 bolts through the bottom of the bucket. Because my teeth are sloped down I cannot dig really well in hard clay but then again its still better than with a flat edge bucket.

If they work then they are not upside down :thumbsup: and they certainly look like they work!

 

[Oldpath05]

I found many times I needed something more to make my bucket work better. I welded up some teeth and I certainly can dig into and move manure better. I realize now that my teeth are upside down but they still work. Being a cheapskate I only used old steel I had lying around. As you can see, the steel plates I used on the underside are from exercise equipment. Finally I decided to bolt the unit on with two 1/2 bolts through the bottom of the bucket. Because my teeth are sloped down I cannot dig really well in hard clay but then again its still better than with a flat edge bucket. View attachment 656004

I can relate to that, some of us have to use what we have.........
I think you have the teeth on right for digging rocky dirt but for scrapping up a barn floor they might better the other way, like you say though what a difference to have something for teeth. Now that I think back of all the digging I did with just the bucket edge, I really over worked my tractor, just dont know why teeth on a bucket is not talked about that much here, I cant empathize enough how much better teeth are on a FEL is!!!

 

[Oldpath05]

Overall they look aggressive. Very nice.

Yes they are, thy'er just right for digging rock dirt, I can flip the rocks right out. I highly recommend this style teeth with 6 on a 5' bucket

 

[Tomtint]

I have a 72" tooth bucket I use on my Cat 246. Primarily to tear up my road when the pot holes get really bad. About a month or so ago they were so worn, a couple actually fell off. I ended up just putting a cutting edge on the bucket because the bucket itself was so worn. I wish Cat had the option to bolt teeth to the bucket with a cutting edge on at the same time.

 

[Oldpath05]

Thats a lot of scrapping to ware down bucket teeth. And why cant a bolt on tooth bar be added to a skid steer bucket?

 

[Tomtint]

Thats a lot of scrapping to ware down bucket teeth. And why cant a bolt on tooth bar be added to a skid steer bucket?

I have a picture somewhere that I will post that shows the old teeth and the new one. .. the way the Cat bucket is, only allows for one or the other..cutting edge or teeth. The bolt on teeth won't fit over a C.E.

 

[Tomtint]

Think I got about all I could out of these teeth.

 

[Oldpath05]

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Now that's what I call getting your money's worth, how much are new the new teeth?

 

[Tomtint]

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Now that's what I call getting your money's worth, how much are new the new teeth?

I don't recall, Maybe 300.00 ish for the set with bolts.....but not certain.

 

[Harry Palmer]

Looking at all the work "oldpath" took to make his teeth work, I suspect you decided to go the easier route "Tomtint". I have a flat bucket on my FEL, so now I'll need to make something or just forget it. I do have some old springs from a trailer which had broken parts, so I do have something to work with. Having a set of bolt on teeth makes a lot of sense to me. If I need to level ground, it will be easier if I remove the teeth. I'll put this down for the next project I put on my list. I'm still working on some projects I started a few years back but when my back started giving me fits, I stopped. Staying at home all the time is driving my wife crazy! We've been together for 45 years next month but I really don't know how we've done it. I think she wants me to move out to the shop so she'll have some peace and quiet.

Thanks for the excellent ideas you've shown me. Maybe I can use my small tractor to dig the ditch for the big fence after all.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

IF, I put anything on my bucket, it's going to be a tooth bar...

SR

 

[Oldpath05]

IF, I put anything on my bucket, it's going to be a tooth bar...

SR

But you dont need a bucket teeth on your land of easy digging.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

But you dont need a bucket teeth on your land of easy digging.

I don't think I'd go so far as to say that...

I have a sand pit, and I use the dozer to push up piles to make it easier on the loader. Tooth bar would make it easier yet...

SR

 

[Oldpath05]

With new bucket teeth on there also arose another problem, my forks wont fit on wile the tooth bar is on. So to avoid the off and on syndrome with the tooth bar, the clamp bolts on the forks have to be re-arranged, it's the domino affect change one thing I have to change something else. After 6 hours I got the bolt clamps set a little higher so the forks will go on and off without removing the tooth bar, I'm finding that the tooth bar might stay on lot longer then first thought where as it works so good for digging.

First the before.

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[Oldpath05]

So now my long pallet forks are refitted, now my short log lift forks wont fit, I'll leave them alone in case I take tooth bar off. Time for a new redesign short log lift fork and to report a miracle, after all welded the short forks still fitted, able to bolt right back on, a little snug so they have to be tapped on but as the tooth bar wares the log lift forks will probably get a little loose, we'll see.

When first drilled the 1/2' holes, the left side ended up 1/4" off, didn't wont to ream out that much so filled one hole back in with weld and remeasured, re-punched, re-measured, re-drilled, re-measured and that's more like it, two 1/2" holes match up with two 1/2" threaded holes. One hard parts done, next hard part is turn my limited design skills on, and everyone says go buy a grapple or thumb, wellll I just dont the $$$$ right now, probably wont latter either, but for now this is the cheaper way to lift logs.