Backhoe bent rops

[radioman]

My sister said he would pay for it but I have yet to see the money!!!

you probably never will. Just go get it fixed yourself. There is no need to lose sleep over it. Anytime he visits you or wants to borrow your machine again, just show him the bill for buying the parts alone. IF by any chance he does pay it, then go and negotaite labor rate plus machine rental for using your time do to othe work for him. chances are he gonna go rent a machine himself or buy one.

 

[mazurrj]

thanks for posting this, I have not lent my tractor out but almost did, I'm not going to take the risk, but probly would do the job my self for them if good freind.

I do not know you situation or know your sisters boyfreind to know if it worth some other options.
As most have siad buy the new rops, Install it yourself with your sisters freinds help. Have him help you pick it up and install it. If he has the cash let him pay for the parts, if not , pay you so much as he can a month or even discount it a little if your situation warrants it or he feses up and tells you the truth.

By him working with you may make him knowing how to better himself in the future. you'ed be helping your sister out too as in the long run he will treat your sister as he treats others. So maybe some good will rub off by the two you working together.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

2x on starting the thread. Our stuff is older and I understand its weak points and protect them when possible. Strangers do not know to do that often. Over the years the pain of saying NO turned out to be less than saying YES.:thumbsup:

With that being said I may show up and do the task myself.

 

[Vitster]

Looks like what would happen when anchored down on a trailer and backing into an overhead obstruction PRETTY DARN FAST.

 

[LeadPoison]

Sounds like the dirtbag has a lead deficiency. Try injecting him with 124 grns of copper jacketed lead and see if that helps.:thumbsup:

I see you are a fan of the 9MM.

 

[gotrocks]

Sorry for your crooked FBL err. I mean ROPS.
Or maybe not crooked just, slightly bent out of shape.
Hope the matter is resolved in a way that is fair to all concerned.


Just wondering what is the age of this guy?

I do let my son use my Kub.

 

[EE_Bota]

I can't beat the speculation on possible causes, but I have taught my children that if you borrow anything, you return it with a full tank and if anything breaks while in your possession, you pay for it.

I personally don't borrow equipment, nor do I loan it to anyone outside my immediate family.

I think what you are teaching is quite right. I never borrow without knowing what the person loaning the item will accept in cash for the tractor to be mine. Stuff like that can be helpful, but it can ruin friendships too.

A friend of mine since first grade borrowed my diesel VW truck one time. On the third day of use, the alternator light came on, then it started steaming. The engine was ruined. I honestly didn't care. But I think it bothered him a great deal. The only real fix was a replacement engine. It took many conversations to convince him that if taking $1400 of his money is the only thing that will make him feel better, we can do that, but it would make me feel bad because I really could not care less about it. Problem solved?

Well almost: He was looking to buy a bigger house for his growing family because his current house is quite small. He asked me to inspect the house. I really was not that impressed, so I asked him what he saw in the house. He listed a few good points, and then said "and the diesel VW in the garage comes with the house, and that will be yours." Yikes!!!!

That situation taught me that if a family member or friend asked to borrow my tractor, I would protect them and me by going over and doing the work myself.

 

[EE_Bota]

O.K. lets cut the crap here. The guy is a liar, by now we all know it. Its just a matter of how mad you want to make the guy and your sister. This isn't something that got bent running into the corner of the shed.

If it were me I'd probably buy the parts and fix it myself, and give him the cold shoulder from then on.

I hate to ask, but I have so much crap that needs to be cut, and I don't own a crap cutter. I wonder if I could borrow your crap cutter for a few hours.

 

[EE_Bota]

You could always ask the guy to borrow a sledge hammer and "accidentally" drop it on the hood of his vehicle. Oops..... :confused2:

You know, you do make an interesting point. I would like to see a film of the OP asking to borrow something the BIL owns. Something like a pick-up truck...where one would expect some slight wear an tear to the bed just through casual usage.

 

[DiezNutz]

I hate to ask, but I have so much crap that needs to be cut, and I don't own a crap cutter. I wonder if I could borrow your crap cutter for a few hours.

Well, I sure wouldn't want to be around when the...

 

[homedad]

Had a neighbor borrow my old L 185 DT years ago. He returned it and handed me the muffler with the broken exhaust elbow. Never offered any compensation. It was a cheap lesson. Never never again.

 

[brin]

Twinsticks...Just my opinion from experience..My sister has passed but I never liked my BIL but forced myself to tolerate him and I am now glad I did.........peace in the family is worth much more than $500 ..take the hit and save the relationship with your sister and that will pay great dividends ...just my opinion mind you.

 

[Singlecoil]

I would take him to court and live with whatever the judge decides. I'm no lawyer, but I think you have a reasonable expectation to not expect anything more than normal wear and tear even without a contract. Think of it this way: if he drove it into a lake and left it there he would be liable for damages. I think it is quite clear that he is liable in this case as well. Maybe you can get some engineering documents that state what the failure load would be on the rops to make it clear to the judge that what happened to it was far from a normal event.

 

[8x56mn]

OMG give it a rest. These are just things that can be replaced, your sister can't, get it fixed if you think you need to and get on with life.

 

[rglaser]

Looks like what would happen when anchored down on a trailer and backing into an overhead obstruction PRETTY DARN FAST.

My thoughts exactly.
-Rob

 

[rjkobbeman]

OMG give it a rest. These are just things that can be replaced, your sister can't, get it fixed if you think you need to and get on with life.

Feel free to not read this thread if it is that troubling for you...

 

[Baby Grand]

I would take him to court and live with whatever the judge decides. I'm no lawyer, but I think you have a reasonable expectation to not expect anything more than normal wear and tear even without a contract. Think of it this way: if he drove it into a lake and left it there he would be liable for damages. I think it is quite clear that he is liable in this case as well. Maybe you can get some engineering documents that state what the failure load would be on the rops to make it clear to the judge that what happened to it was far from a normal event.

Sure you're not a lawyer?
Suppose he did go to court and the unimaginable happened: BIL wins.
That would make for some great conversation down at the grange.

-jim

 

[dodge man]

I once loaned a chain saw to a co-worker. It is a pretty good saw, but when I tried to start it one time with your foot in the handle, sitting on the ground, I broke the bottom of the handle. Its not where it bothers you really when using it so I just crazy glued it on and didn't worry about it. When the co-worker brought it back it was broken, and they went to the local Stihl dealer, but fixing it would have cost over a $100 so they didn't get it fixed. When they retruned it to me they offered to pay to get it fixed, but I said don't worry about it, it was already broken.

My point is, there are people I will lend tools to, or even my tractor. These are the kind of people you can trust your life with and I know they will fix or offer to fix anything that gets broken. I hate to see people lose faith in human nature over a incident like this.

 

[beenthere]

I have been reading the comments, and while I didn't go back and re-read all of them, I still have a question in my mind.

Did the OP encourage his sisters boy friend to take his tractor for a job? Puts a slightly different light on things if something like this took place, versus the boy friend asking to borrow the tractor. In other words, the loan may have been encouraged, which doesn't mean the borrower has less responsibility for seeing to it that the ROPS is fixed.

 

[hawkeye08]

:thumbsup:

I see you are a fan of the 9MM.