Backhoe bent rops
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twinsticks
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Well maybe with a full load going backwards down hill full speed hitting the wood shed in that spot could bend it .. I think a bx 23 plus a full bucket weighs around 4000 pounds hitting the rops with the height of could do it something has to give ... My dealer now tells me he has heard of other ones bending from what I do not no... I will be installing it with his help.. Hope no other damage to it we will see...
Dead Horse
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Who's help, your dealer? I hope so.
I hafta say you (and several other softies here) are better men than I.
Once your sister's boyfriend pulled the stunt he did, fubaring your tractor, sneaking it back to you, denying he did the damage and dragging out paying for it, I gotta say I would have absolutely NOTHING to do with that spineless weasel ever again........
My tractors are prized personal posessions.......... I do not take lightly to someone hurting one of them.
That ole boy is telling some serious untruths about what happened to the R.O.P.S.. They are very stout and would need a serious impact to begin to bend one... Once bent though, they need to be replaced period. The R.O.P.S. has been compromised and will not perform as intended.
The way I see it, he owes you a new one.
I am a multiple Kubota owner since 1994...nothing wrong with the old ones...just keep buying bigger ones.
The way I see it, he owes you a new one.
I am a multiple Kubota owner since 1994...nothing wrong with the old ones...just keep buying bigger ones.
rdsaustintx
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Horse, do you even have a brother-in-law? Near as I can tell, being contentious weasels is the whole reason the good Lord put them here.
Redbug
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Twinsticks...I'm glad the bum budged. But, it's not over... till it's over. Hopefully, he really will pay for the parts. If not...I would pay it and chalk it to a learning lesson in the school of hard knocks. It's only money...and it showed the true colors of the people involved.
After that...I would give the cold shoulder to the sis, too. Birds of a feather flock together. She knows what happened and showed that blood is not thicker than water. She's no better than him. What comes around...goes around.
When you get it fixed, run it and see if anything else is amiss.
If it is all OK, I need to borrow it to help clean up some debris at the back of my best friend's property. We don't have a gas station nearby, so please bring some extra diesel for the job. You need to drop it off before next Saturday... that's when we need to start. You are going to be a good friend.
Sorry for the sarcasm...I've been burned too. I'm watching to see how things turn out.
After that...I would give the cold shoulder to the sis, too. Birds of a feather flock together. She knows what happened and showed that blood is not thicker than water. She's no better than him. What comes around...goes around.
When you get it fixed, run it and see if anything else is amiss.
If it is all OK, I need to borrow it to help clean up some debris at the back of my best friend's property. We don't have a gas station nearby, so please bring some extra diesel for the job. You need to drop it off before next Saturday... that's when we need to start. You are going to be a good friend.
Sorry for the sarcasm...I've been burned too. I'm watching to see how things turn out.
KubotainNH
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This is how I do things too. I borrowed a friends JD and when he got it back he had a case of beer, full tank of gas, all Zerks lubed and some of it's issues were fixed. Hopefully this one ends well.
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EE_Bota
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I have said a few things, and told one story, but I have not said my opinion on how I would handle it. Here is how I would:
Regardless: I would have a proper ROPS. <-period. I would never loan him anything again. <-period.
If he will pay, I would accept it, and if not, I would pay it and fix the ROPS, and forgive the entire thing.
In my worldview, that ROPS is small potatoes. I would drive it out of my mind, and think...and yes, pray about the larger issue for around three months. And then at the end of that time, I predict (but do not know for sure) I would have a talk with Sister:
"The ROPS is not even a blip on my radar screen. What concerns me is what it taught me about the fellow you are dating.
I wish a kind, honest, moral, thoughtful, and reasonable man for you. If you continue with this fellow, I will do my best to be as friendly and normal as possible at all family gatherings, and regardless, I will always love you.
Please do nothing on my behalf, but look at all available signs, symptoms, and information and do the best you can for yourself and for your future."
After that talk, I would do my best to forget, and be a man of my word to my sister.
As time rolls on, if they marry and you become an uncle, never forsake an opportunity to be their children's favorite uncle. Teach them good lessons for living and keep them close. View it as an opportunity, not an obligation.
It seems like a lot to ask, I know, and I would not find it easy. But if being right were easy, we would all be right all the time, and problems like this would never develop to begin with.
Regardless: I would have a proper ROPS. <-period. I would never loan him anything again. <-period.
If he will pay, I would accept it, and if not, I would pay it and fix the ROPS, and forgive the entire thing.
In my worldview, that ROPS is small potatoes. I would drive it out of my mind, and think...and yes, pray about the larger issue for around three months. And then at the end of that time, I predict (but do not know for sure) I would have a talk with Sister:
"The ROPS is not even a blip on my radar screen. What concerns me is what it taught me about the fellow you are dating.
I wish a kind, honest, moral, thoughtful, and reasonable man for you. If you continue with this fellow, I will do my best to be as friendly and normal as possible at all family gatherings, and regardless, I will always love you.
Please do nothing on my behalf, but look at all available signs, symptoms, and information and do the best you can for yourself and for your future."
After that talk, I would do my best to forget, and be a man of my word to my sister.
As time rolls on, if they marry and you become an uncle, never forsake an opportunity to be their children's favorite uncle. Teach them good lessons for living and keep them close. View it as an opportunity, not an obligation.
It seems like a lot to ask, I know, and I would not find it easy. But if being right were easy, we would all be right all the time, and problems like this would never develop to begin with.
BleedGreen
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On the subject of BILs...
I have six sisters. All of them have been married at least once, some of them twice, and one of them three times.
Out of the entire herd of BILs, past and present, I have ONE that is worth a d*mn.
I have six sisters. All of them have been married at least once, some of them twice, and one of them three times.
Out of the entire herd of BILs, past and present, I have ONE that is worth a d*mn.
Snapper Head
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I won't speak for twinsticks, but I don't think this is about the tractor.
It is about being lied to, by someone that was trusted. Lied to repeatedly, and for an extended period. Jerked around, as it were.
The ROPS doesn't add up to a hill of beans. The money either.
Once the repair was done, not matter who paid, I would invite the bastid-in-law over to see the shiny glory of the new rops, then I would break his jaw for lying to me.
The boy has earned it, and we should all be paid what we earn.
Big Al
It is about being lied to, by someone that was trusted. Lied to repeatedly, and for an extended period. Jerked around, as it were.
The ROPS doesn't add up to a hill of beans. The money either.
Once the repair was done, not matter who paid, I would invite the bastid-in-law over to see the shiny glory of the new rops, then I would break his jaw for lying to me.
The boy has earned it, and we should all be paid what we earn.
Big Al
Dead Horse
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Well i have six sisters and my bride has one, so yeah I have had at times a total of 8 BILs.
outta those 8, three of them are good guys, the rest are useless. And truth be told, I wouldn't let any of the three near a screwdriver for fear they would hurt themselves..... I don even tell em I HAVE tractors...............
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DiezNutz
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I think it's understood that everyone reading this basically feels the same way.
If the BF had brought the tractor back along with a full disclosure of what really happened, an apology, and some show of effort to make it right, this thread wouldn't have 150+ posts already.
megaboz
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I know everyone hates the BIL, but honestly I would be more concerned if the tractor was going to be ok? After all tractors are more important than the inlaws! It would take a good deal of force to start it bending, but once it started it would take much to continue it.
I would be looking for other signs of damage where the rops were conected to the frame.
Also, if it was somehow because of a roll over, I doubt very seriously it would have started without breaking something in the engine, and I doubt the BIL was smart enough to prevent damage to the tractor in the advent of a roll over.
I would be looking for other signs of damage where the rops were conected to the frame.
Also, if it was somehow because of a roll over, I doubt very seriously it would have started without breaking something in the engine, and I doubt the BIL was smart enough to prevent damage to the tractor in the advent of a roll over.
radioman
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now the witch hunt is over, hopefully he will have the parts paid for as well. :thumbsup: There is nothing like getting your tractor back to original shape with new parts.
I am learning to keep my mouth shut too..at work one day I accidently mentioned I have a dump trailer...now I have two co-workers wanting to borrow it...and I'm just not into loaning stuff, unless it is under $2 and I don't want it back. Of course I'll be the "jerk" if I don't loan it out..
...even though those 2 guys make as much or more than me, they can go buy their own dump trailer if they need one I'm glad I don't have any BILs, I have one sister and my wife has one sister and neither is married and live far away:thumbsup:
Redbug
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Skyco...I wonder if there's any place around where you live they can be rented instead? How could you phrase that in a nice way?
What is it with people? Soon as they find out you have something they need they always want to borrow? I think it's bad manners and a bit presumptuous to ask to borrow from an acquaintance. And if you do loan...it's like loaning money...no better way to have hard feelings about the outcome. People are self centered. You have a right to do what you want with YOUR stuff.
What is it with people? Soon as they find out you have something they need they always want to borrow? I think it's bad manners and a bit presumptuous to ask to borrow from an acquaintance. And if you do loan...it's like loaning money...no better way to have hard feelings about the outcome. People are self centered. You have a right to do what you want with YOUR stuff.
hawkeye08
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I am learning to keep my mouth shut too..at work one day I accidently mentioned I have a dump trailer...now I have two co-workers wanting to borrow it...and I'm just not into loaning stuff, unless it is under $2 and I don't want it back. Of course I'll be the "jerk" if I don't loan it out..
I'm glad I don't have any BILs, I have one sister and my wife has one sister and neither is married and live far away:thumbsup:
I usually just tell them the truth, that I don't loan out my stuff, if something were to happen, I would feel bad, and it would cost you more to fix it than it is worth. I don't always keep the safety switches, etc so I don't want to be liable if you had an accident. Occasionally I have made an exception, but not often. I have shown up with my drywall tools to spent the day helping someone, but my tools go with me when I go out the door...
It is even worse than that- I let it slip to guy #1. The next day he blurts out to guy #2 "Skyco has a dump trailer! Didn't you need to use one too?"
So now he's offering up MY trailer to people that haven't even asked....and I never said anyone could borrow itThen I told them both there has been an ad on CL in Columbia for weeks some outfit in town is crushing tons of concrete into whatever size you want and will deliver 20 tons for $200 within 25 miles of Columbia..perfect for their driveway repairs. You can't buy 20 tons at the quarry for that, much less haul it in 4 trips with my trailer. Neither of these guys live within 15 miles of a quarry. I just get blank looks!:mur:
