Another Trailer Build?

[crazyal]

What works for me is to find some round lights and then some pipe that's larger in diameter than the lights. Weld the pipe to the frame, weld a flat strip of metal across the front with the hols drilled in it to mount the lights, and then drill some holes in the side (if you worried about side marker lights) and bottom (if you're going to mount the plate below the taillight). They sell a nice 2 1/2" taillight for motorcycles that are pretty cheap. They have one mounting stud in the back so they are easy to mount inside the pipe. They are a little small so I would put two or even three per side.

I've always used 4" diameter lights but then now seam to all use the rubber gasket around the outside which makes it hard to recess them inside the pipe (but it could be done. I've never done it but you could weld a ring inside the pipe, slide the light into the pipe with the rubber gasket in, and then another ring of steel to sandwich it. That second ring could have expanded metal on it to protect the light.

I also like to weld stainless bolts to the frame for ground points. You'll never have ground issues.

 

[The Fred]

So I'm kind of back on it. I told you I had a hair-brained idea. The dump cylinders retract into the body when closed then drop down to the axle and push the body up. This gives me 16 degrees of starting angle and tips the body up to 40 degrees. I put some wood in the cart and it starts to slide at 20 degrees.

Either it works or I tear it up and waste more money. Wife not too keen on me right about now as the bills are coming in. Holy krap steel is not cheap these days. The bending of the panels and steel this far is over $1,500 bucks.

Regards, Fred

 

[ericher69]

I like it!

A friendly suggestion if I may?

Maybe add/weld a piece of angle or flat bar to the opposite side of the axle tube to counteract the push from the cylinders. $20 bucks now or much more $$ later for another axle...

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[Xfaxman]

I like it too! :thumbsup: Better apply for a patent.

Have you measured how far back the axle moves with maximum spring compression?

You may have to add a plate to the edge of the angle iron, where the arrow is.

 

[The Fred]

Hmmmmmmm


More to think about, that's why I am taking my time.


Thanks!


Fred

 

[Xfaxman]

Hmmmmmmm


More to think about, that's why I am taking my time.


Thanks!


Fred

Think about bump stops over the axle, also.

 

[bcp]

Interesting build.

A way to get by with a lower mounting angle for your main cylinders is to have a third, short, near vertical cylinder that only raises the bed a foot or so, then stops, to give the main cylinders a good starting angle when they take over.

Bruce

 

[The Fred]

Been awhile since I worked on this but back in February I was in Mexico on vacation and I woke up in the middle of the night (most likely still drunk) thinking about my hair-brained hoist idea; suddenly realized there was no way to hold the dump body from tipping over backwards while dumping over a bank or whatever. I thus ditched the retractable cylinder design in lieu of a subframe next to the axle that both cylinders mount to.

Still a lot to do but I loaded it with wood yesterday to test the dump function. Looks good but I can see my frame is a bit flimsy. It tips up to 45 degrees but I didn't want to dump the wood there so only went up halfway.

Back to the drawing board for fenders, lights, tailgate.

Regards, Fred

[video]http://vid1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag391/Frednation/20150419_135445_zpsvpqzaqmm.mp4[/video]

 

[CDN Farm Boy]

Interesting idea for the dump cyl mounting. Good catch about it tipping over backwards. What about attaching a retractable limiting strap from the front of the bed down to the frame and keep your idea? Double check the math on your dump force. Surplus Center has an online calculator for figuring out the force of an angled cyl.

The last 5 pages of the current 8 pages of my dump wagon build have been about sorting out the flawed geometry of my design and switching to a scissor lift (rebuild to happen soon....):

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/build-yourself/328346-dump-wagon-build.html

 

[jwmorris]

I came across several different methods when building my dump trailer.

Post 18 here
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/build-yourself/286264-dump-bed-hydraulics.html

 

[The Fred]

More pictures, Fred

I can see my original trailer frame is a bit flimsy between the front spring hangers and the tool box I just welded in which is 5 inches deep 1/8" plate.
Maybe I'll fish plate that part of the frame, the weight is increasing more than I'd like.

Rubber snubbers above the springs for sure. Thanks for the #18 post sir I did the under body direct lift but in reverse thinking it would start the load better. Not sure if it would or not.

 

[The Fred]

Finally got my light boxes built and installed. Not sure how the plastic fenders will work but they should take some abuse banging around in the woods. The tub is getting warped out of shape from welding but the gate closes tightly.

I keep telling myself to finish the stupid thing it's just a wood cart.

Fred

 

[Xfaxman]

Looking good. :thumbsup:

 

[jack707]

Nice work man!

 

[chad22]

That's a great looking trailer. I really need to make me one for hauling scrap metal such as aluminum where I can just operate the valve and dump the aluminum in the pile. Would be useful for a lot of other things as well.

I'm gonna be tearing down my old mobile home and might use the good frame underneath it to build me a small dump trailer with it.

 

[The Fred]

[video]http://vid1373.photobucket.com/albums/ag391/Frednation/20150525_091159_zpstrey4u5y.mp4[/video]

Short dump video loaded with stumps.

Regards, Fred

 

[CDN Farm Boy]

Looking good. I'm guessing some clamps for the hyd lines are in the plans?

 

[The Fred]

The clamps are now on just not in the older pix. Still more work to do before the paint.

Regards, Fred

 

[The Fred]

Well what a mess.
I disassembled the trailer yesterday for painting and took an hour to get the hinge pins out of the tub. The tub warped horribly thanks to me.

Looks like I need to remedy this before paint as I won't be able to reassemble afterwards.

Lots more work involved.

Frame

Trying to straighten the hinge area

Maybe paint later today, Fred

 

[farm boy00]

Well what a mess.
I disassembled the trailer yesterday for painting and took an hour to get the hinge pins out of the tub. The tub warped horribly thanks to me.

Looks like I need to remedy this before paint as I won't be able to reassemble afterwards.

Lots more work involved.

Frame

Trying to straighten the hinge area

Maybe paint later today, Fred

How did you weld the sheet metal?? Did you tack it all then do different sections or just weld one side at a time