AI being helpful thread

[rontaki]

I asked AI if it foresees AI taking over mankind in the future... or something like that. and AI replied no, AI is a tool that should be used to enhance what mankind can do and not a replacement intelligence.

Probably a question anticipated by the designers, and a canned answer ready for whenever that issue is raised.

 

[rontaki]

What I've wondered about is how much of AI information is built on the fake information that has proliferated on the internet over the years.

The digital information equivalent to acoustic feedback . . .

 

[quicksandfarmer]

What I've wondered about is how much of AI information is built on the fake information that has proliferated on the internet over the years.

Even worse, the current generation of AI is being trained on AI-generated content.

 

[quicksandfarmer]

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I've seen the claim made that in order to justify the current levels of spending on AI, the economy would have to see $1.5 trillion in annual profitability gains. If that is done by reducing expenses by reducing employment, it means that 15 million $100k/year jobs would have to be eliminated.

That would have to start soon. The longer it takes, the more jobs would have to be eliminated to justify the spending.

So there are two possible trajectories. One is that the current level of AI spending turns out to not be justified. This would cause a stock market crash -- 80% of the gains in the stock market since ChatGPT was introduced come from companies that are investing in AI. If you take out spending on AI our economy is experiencing negative growth right now.

The other outcome is tens of millions of people losing their jobs, which would also be incredibly disruptive.

I guess it's possible that AI leads to increased production and we're all wealthier. Interestingly though, that's not the way it's being pitched to business leaders.

 

[scootr]

My real intelligence doesn't believe the sky is falling because we have artificial intelligence.

 

[rontaki]

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

Turn the closed captions (CC) on if you don't know the words.

 

[paulsharvey]

I've seen the claim made that in order to justify the current levels of spending on AI, the economy would have to see $1.5 trillion in annual profitability gains. If that is done by reducing expenses by reducing employment, it means that 15 million $100k/year jobs would have to be eliminated.

That would have to start soon. The longer it takes, the more jobs would have to be eliminated to justify the spending.

So there are two possible trajectories. One is that the current level of AI spending turns out to not be justified. This would cause a stock market crash -- 80% of the gains in the stock market since ChatGPT was introduced come from companies that are investing in AI. If you take out spending on AI our economy is experiencing negative growth right now.

The other outcome is tens of millions of people losing their jobs, which would also be incredibly disruptive.

I guess it's possible that AI leads to increased production and we're all wealthier. Interestingly though, that's not the way it's being pitched to business leaders.

I understand the worry, but I dont think you want employement propped up by inefficient, place holder, employees that dont actually create or do anything, that can be eliminated by an advanced algorithm?

We could have propped up employment by not pressuring CNC in machining; and it might have worked for 5 or even 10 years, but in the end, the crash would be worse when it does self correct.

So, AI is coming, period. Maybe some countries will try to ban it, but they will suffer in the long run.

 

[paulsharvey]

In the mean time; I largely use Chat for shallow dives into things I'm curious about, but not that dedicated to spend hours and hours learning. See a bushhog on FBM, OK, what's chat say this one's cut capacity is? OK, find me available replacement parts?

 

[KennyG]

I asked AI if it foresees AI taking over mankind in the future... or something like that. and AI replied no, AI is a tool that should be used to enhance what mankind can do and not a replacement intelligence.

How would you answer if you were planning to take over the world?

 

[WinterDeere]

It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

Turn the closed captions (CC) on if you don't know the words.

I’m the right age to have listened to that album a thousand times over. Everyone knew the first three lines, then mumbled until… “Leonard Bernstein!”