add 3rd function to L3400

wildwillie · May 22, 2009

I just bought a kubota L3400 and now want to add a 3rd function to the fel for a bucket grapel. Dealer wants $800.00, seems really high.I know it isnt hard. Any advice ?

DRL · May 22, 2009

Willie
I am taking delivery of my new L3400 today. Won't be doing the grapple right away but someday, so I will be watching your thread and progress. Keep us informed. What all was included for $800. If it is just a valve and a couple hoses I agree, sounds high. I have not checked if the loader valve is power beyond, will know tonight.
DRL

bruceatlam · May 22, 2009

I have no idea what you have in mind for a design, but I'll offer that if you do it yourself you'll have maybe $500 in hard parts -- valve, fittings, hoses, brackets etc. Then there's your time --- so, is your time worth $300 to you?

wildwillie · May 23, 2009

The $800 is only for the installed dirverter valve and hoses Dosnt include transport to and from dealer. I dont have a trailor so I have the dealer come get it. Plus if I can save a couple hundred bucks, YOU BETCH YA. Plus I like to tinker,Is the valve the dealer will install the best, Ive heard stories of leaks ? Dont want to reinvent the wheel Just get the most bang for the buck.

Knight · May 23, 2009

I added a grapple control to my l3400. I went with electric over hydraulics.
I installed a marine switch on the dash.
I ordered the wrong valve because I ordered an open center valve. We have open center system, you need a tandem center valve

It uses a D03 base, here is the link.
Northman Fluid Power Hydraulic Directional Control Valve 19.8 GPM, 4500 PSI, 3-Position, Double Solenoid, Tandem Center Spool, 12 Volt DC Solenoids, Model# SWH-G03-C6-D12-10 | Power Solenoid | Northern Tool + Equipment

Here is a link to grapple project on a L3400.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/134273-making-different-grapple-forks-bucket.html

wildwillie · May 23, 2009

I like your grapel knight, Northern calls for a d05 subplate maby i'm missing something?Whear did you pull supply & return from? I like the grapel being seperate from the bucket.

Knight · May 23, 2009

I pulled from the power beyond fitting to a loop at the back of tractor for backhoe,to my D03 Block, then it returns back to the main hydraulic block underneath the brake area, from there it feeds 3 point hitch internally in the tractor.

wildwillie · May 24, 2009

I don't have power beyond so I'll have to do some plumbing research. Still haven't found the do3 base. The picks really help, THANKS.

SouthernConservative · May 30, 2009

What type of FEL do you have? - I have a L4310 w/ a LA682 FEL and plan to add a 3rd function - elec over hydro...wondering how simulair our tractors are in regards to adding a 3rd function.

Knight · May 31, 2009

wildwillie said:
I don't have power beyond so I'll have to do some plumbing research. Still haven't found the do3 base. The picks really help, THANKS.

D03 base
https://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2009053121494275&item=9-5338&catname=

Yes, you do have a power beyond port.

wildwillie · Jun 1, 2009

Thank's knight, I've got to pick up a repair manual. going to order parts,will post how it goes. FeLL is LA463.

dfkrug · Jun 7, 2009

WILLIE, you can buy a simple monoblock lever-actuated spool valve,
like the Prince unit from Northern. Don't forget the Power Beyond
sleeve, cuz your 3-PT is normally powered from the PB of the FEL
valve. You can install your new 3rd function valve between the FEL
and 3-PT. Cost will be $100 for the valve, plus a couple more hoses,
some fittings, and a mounting bracket. No need to spend $800.

wildwillie · Jun 11, 2009

Thanks for the info, I searched northern's site no luck finding anything on a power beyond sleeve,What does it do?

sizzami · Jun 17, 2009

I used a electric diverter valve on my grapple cost 250.00 including fittings just plumb your tilt cylinders in and out again push button close open grapple release button tilt bucket normally

wildwillie · Jul 1, 2009

sizzami said:
I used a electric diverter valve on my grapple co

wildwillie · Jul 3, 2009

I've bought the dirverter valve and base, how do I run the return line ?

dfkrug · Jul 3, 2009

wildwillie said:
I've bought the dirverter valve and base, how do I run the return line ?

What return line? If you bought a solenoid-operated diverter, it prob has
two pressure inlets from your mechanical valve, and four outlets that
go to your cylinders, 2 to one, and 2 to the other. If your cylinders are
paired, then your diverter outlets get teed into each pair.

I just checked with NorthernTool and you are right that I do not see many
explicit listings for the power beyond sleeves for their Prince valves. A
buyer would probably have to ask to get them. You won't need a power
beyond setup since you are going to divert the flow from a work circuit
on an existing valve.

HCJ · Jul 3, 2009

I added this an electric over hydraulic control to my M6800. WR Long sells the entire kit, set up specifically for each model tractor. Mine costs around $600 if I remember correctly. My dealer installed it but it would not be too hard to do it yourself. It did require a little welding to attach the quick connect bracket to the FEL. You can go to the WR Long website to see this. They were really nice to work with.