Abrupt stop on RTV

[Ricochet]

I know exactly where it mounts and all. It shouldn't be diffucult...I'll try to take some pics of it tomorrow and get any other info I can find about it.

BTW, have you got over 50 hours on your RTV? The sudden stop issue becomes less of a problem IMO after it has been broken in and you get use to it.

 

[bczoom]

Thanks Jippy.
I think I'm at about 47 hours. Already picked up everything for the 50 hour maintenance but haven't had a chance to do it yet.
I'd say the abruptness on mine seems about the same as when new. Hard to tell exactly... Now that I'm used to the abrupt stop, I just let it do it. I don't try too often to feather the stopping.

 

[flyingn]

BTW- im at 49 hours and my RTV is going away to get its 50 hour servive done

Frank

 

[Ricochet]

Concerning the speed control lever:

I think this revised part will be very hard to come by, since it is a relatively new production part. I seriously doubt many dealers will be able to get them right away. I can't find any instructions/documents related to it, since it is a running production change and not meant to be a kit to replace previous production speed control levers.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

They are readily available though parts. Its not a "kit" so there are not detailed directions or anything on its use. From what I hear its pretty straight forward.

 

[Ricochet]

Yep, that sounds about right to me. This revised part assembly will probably be on back order (like some people have reported) for awhile, but will be available sooner or later and no replacement instructions will be available. Also, I could not find anything in the WSM about it but like Messick said it should not be difficult to do.

 

[bczoom]

For the speed control assembly, mine is still on backorder. It "should" be here next week.

I don't want to hijack this thread but since we have a couple weeks, let me ask a couple quick question.

Since we're talking about hours a little here, is there anything the dealer "needs" to do for the 50 hour service? I was just going to change all the oils, filters and check everything out.

For getting Kubota stuff to dealers do they send parts, accessories and the machines themselves based on the dealers volume? The local dealer is pretty small (probably 10 or so new Kubota's on the whole lot). It seems that he can't get accessories (at least for the RTV). I ordered a bed liner and winch mount in May. He hasn't gotten either yet. I call a big dealer somewhere else and the part is at my door in the same week. (I haven't taken this approach on the speed control assembly since it's just an experiment for discussion on the forums)

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

There is no preference given to a big dealer, the only advantage is that larger ones stock more stuff and order in higher quanity. RTV accessories are hard to get and have been for awhile, it took me several months to get some of the stuff I have ordered. I think Kubota was not prepared for the huge hit the RTV has turned out to be.

 

[rtvman]

I agree. I have waited 3-months to get my glove box. It finally came in yesterday and I am sorry to say it wasn't worth the wait. Pretty dinky /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif About all it is good for is to put a pair of non -insulated gloves in it. At the same time I got sucked into that very dinky front storage compartment too! About all that's good for is to store my insulated gloves! /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif I fun about these minor issues but I absolutely love my RTV!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Ricochet]

After further review, there is a speed lever assembly kit on the way for the new K7561-42334 (Rev. 4) part. Kit P/N K7561-97421 will be available sooner or later and it will have an installation manual/guide.

 

[bczoom]

rtvman - are you keeping those accessories? I've never heard how small they really are, just that they're not worth the $. I'm waiting on Todd to finish his.

 

[rtvman]

Brian,

How are you! I have been trying to respond back to you from your private message and for some reason it won't send. Not sure why? Anyway thanks for the links, I will check them out.

I will be keeping those meager accessories because, small as they are, they do hold my gloves just fine /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[bczoom]

Kevin,

Got your PM response. I thought gloves and spare beverages go in the gap behind the seat? /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Jippy

I've ordered K7561-42334. Are you saying that Kit P/N K7561-97421 is the same thing, only difference being it includes instructions? I should be fine installing with what you e-mailed me. Thanks

Brian

 

[Ricochet]

Yep, that's the only difference.

 

[Keybal]

I installed the K7561-42334 kit last night, The actual cost was $25.00 plus $5.00 shipping. It came with a one page instruction sheet (all diagrams, no written instructions) and took about 30 minutes to install. It installs down by the transmission. Not hard to put on, but a pair of C-clip pliers is helpfull. Took it for a spin after installation. I think its going to take awhile to get used to haveing to use the brakes

 

[bczoom]

Keybal,

Welcome to TBN.
I put mine on last night as well.
Mine came to the dealer as K756-97420 at the same price you got it.
I called the dealer the next day and they checked with Kubota. PN K7561-42334 (which is what I ordered for $14.25) is no longer available?!?!? They said there was some defect in the part and they're not selling it anymore. Well, as of now, I don't believe them and think they pulled a switch to get another $10 by including a piece of paper that has the 2 step instructions (take off old one, install new one). I'm hoping the issues I'm having with Kubota are limited to the RTV but I'm not real happy with Kubota right now. I'm not going to even look at them for a new tractor. I'm going with either blue or green.

OK, enough venting. On to the new part.
Pretty easy to install. A pair of snap-ring pliers would speed up the process but I got by with needle-nose pliers. Other tools needed are a 12mm + 13mm wrench and pliers. Had the old off and new on in about 1/2 hour.

It was raining so I only did a short ride.
In low-range. Very nice stopping. It stopped relatively quickly but took the abruptness out.
Medium and high range: It took awhile for it to stop when at full speed in each range. If you don't plan ahead, you may need some brakes.

Although my ride was short, I haven't encountered shifting issues (hard to switch gears) that I've heard about on some of the new ones with this part installed from the factory (thanks Neil). I'll keep an eye on this. There does seem to be some linkages that are adjustable that attach (directly or indirectly) to this part. I may need to do some adjusting. Take a look at the attached pic.
The new part is on the left side. Vertical bar with sleeve for grease zerk and plate on the right.
I noticed the notch on the plate is not centered directlly on the stop. (see gap on top where they meet). The old one sat centered.

I'll ride with it for awhile. Not sure if I'll keep on or revert to the original but will post my findings as I have more time to try it out.

 

[BeeFarmer]

What kind of issues are you having with your RTV?

 

[bczoom]

BeeFarmer

Not 100% sure I understand your question.

There are/have been a couple issues with the RTV that have already been posted. E.g. hard to shift.

I guess I'm just struggling with Kubota, the company.

 

[Keybal]

I can't answer for BeeFarmer, BUT I think the engine takes so long to get back to minimum idle speed that if you try and shift within five to ten seconds after stopping with the new lever installed, the tranny doesn't want to "give up" the gear that you are in. It now seems harder to get the RTV out of any gear, especially reverse

 

[flyingn]

this is exactly what I thought would happen with the new lever installed.. I know without it the idle has to be all the way down before I can get off a clean gear shift.. With it its gotta be a problem..

Frank