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What did that run you if you don't mind my asking? Get any hydraulics?
8Ft blade on MX5100?
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OrangeToys
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bought it used. dealer called me friday and said he had a 8ft blade that was in really good shape, so today i went to look at it.
the paint is barely scratched up and the stand has a bend in it at the very top so for being an '04 model, I paid $750+tax. He has a new one on the lot for $1,300
the paint is barely scratched up and the stand has a bend in it at the very top so for being an '04 model, I paid $750+tax. He has a new one on the lot for $1,300
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OrangeToys
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The used blade I ended up buying
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Now all you need are top and tilt hydraulics to be able to adjust that blade on the move. You got a good deal, you should be happy with that blade. :thumbsup:
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How do I know what hydraulics to get?
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I just bought a new 7ft blade for my mx5100 as well, its from bush hog, paid $1200 for it, and as far as the hydroulics go, I called my dealer and he quoted me $350 for the cylinder, fittings, and hoses. Was looking thru catalogs and there was too many to choose with different lenghts throws to them, so just called dealer, and he was cheaper in the long run.
just a note: anytime you have a blade, ft. or rear, extending out beyond a relatively narrow width tractor like the MX, beware of trees, fence posts, & other obstructions! it sure will mess up equip. & pose a safety hazard. for this reason i went with the 72" bucket rather than 84" on my larger M series tr. just a word of precaution. good luck
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I just bought a new 7ft blade for my mx5100 as well, its from bush hog, paid $1200 for it, and as far as the hydroulics go, I called my dealer and he quoted me $350 for the cylinder, fittings, and hoses. Was looking thru catalogs and there was too many to choose with different lenghts throws to them, so just called dealer, and he was cheaper in the long run.Easier yes, well maybe.But cheaper, not if you had looked a little harder.
LD1
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Congrats on the new blade. I am sure you will enjoy.
I disagree about them being junk. I have one. 7' behind my L3400. $400 used. I doubt even the OP's MX5100 would hurt it, let alone your 8n or GrandL
PHILIP Its KING KRUTTER get it right !
I agree unless there The Pro Series there are junk.IMHO also.
Boone
I just hate this brand bashing. Calling a king kutter junk is nonsense.
Like anything else, you get what you pay for. KK is NOT the only company that makes light ~250lb blades. Those are really designed for very SMALL tractors and/or snow removal.
But a 250lb blade from ANYONE and put it behind a ~35HP 4x4 and you are going to bend and break things.
It isnt KK's fault people dont choose the right blade for their application and tractor because they didnt want to spend the $$$ to get the right equipment.:confused2:
PHILIP8N
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A hydraulic top link is manditory. Got mine from CCM, not sure if they are still in business, but there are others that do the same. Side link is optional, depends on what you are doing. Do you have rear remotes installed already? I also added a hydraulic angle to my blade, that was more important than a hyd side link to me. Philip.
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This is absolutely correct, and it doesn't go for just cheap light weight blades. when I bought my 7520 the dealer sold me on a 680lb blade from MidWest for $1000. Blade was rated for a 60hp tractor and I was told that it would be fine for me. WRONG, bent it THE FIRST time that I used it, got by for another 2 years before I bought a rear blade that would hold up to my tractor. If the implement is matched properly to the tractor, there should be no problems, the secret is to get the right implement for the tractor and the job to be performed.
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OrangeToys
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Can someone give me a little help on putting a hydraulic on the blade...I'm looking at a Grizzly cylinder 3x8 with 2500psi. Is that enough?
LD1
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Depends on how big the blade is and how big your tractor is
Edit: sorry, I didnt realize you were the OP. Is this the woods HBL96 you are talking about?
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OrangeToys
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Yes its the 8ft
LD1
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I think a 3x8 is going to be WAY too small.
For starters, the stroke length is too short. In order to be able to pivot at least 45 degrees each way, you are going to have to mount it pretty close to the center pivot of the blade. This makes the lever action of the blade over the cylinder MUCH greater.
A longer stroke allows you to mount farther away from the pivot and allow for less leverage effect. Because angling the blade is cake. It is being able to hold it there that becomes the issue. And that can be overcome by using a larger diameter cylinder, and/or lessening the leverage effect.
A quick look on wood's website shows that on their comparable hydraulic blade, they are using a 3.5" x 16" cylinder.
For starters, the stroke length is too short. In order to be able to pivot at least 45 degrees each way, you are going to have to mount it pretty close to the center pivot of the blade. This makes the lever action of the blade over the cylinder MUCH greater.
A longer stroke allows you to mount farther away from the pivot and allow for less leverage effect. Because angling the blade is cake. It is being able to hold it there that becomes the issue. And that can be overcome by using a larger diameter cylinder, and/or lessening the leverage effect.
A quick look on wood's website shows that on their comparable hydraulic blade, they are using a 3.5" x 16" cylinder.
LD1
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http://www.woodsonline.com/uploadedFiles/Products/Manuals/MAN0160.pdf
Page 10, 11, and 12 show their cylinder sizes:thumbsup:
Page 10, 11, and 12 show their cylinder sizes:thumbsup:
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I think that most of the OEMs use either a 3 1/2" or 4" dia cylinders and for your 8' wide blade you should be looking at a 14" stroke. I need to order one of these for myself for my landscape rake. You will; have a tough time of it with only an 8" stroke. If you want to wait, I can ship one with your top link. Probably around $200 with all the shipping and what not.
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Email me what you have available. I already sent you my info for the top link order
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Dealer found that the cylinder is 3"x ??? (he guessed 8") but they want about $400 and it has everything. He even said just go buy a cylinder somewhere else:thumbsup:
