5220 john deere won't start

Djeakin · Jan 6, 2015

This tractor won't do anything. When I parked it it was fine. I turned the key on and all dash lights lit up but when you try to start it. Nothing. It's like it is a safety switch or something. It's in park, the pto isn't engaged. I tried shorting across the solenoid and it turned over fine but didn't start. Any ideas? I also checked fuses.

JD5210 · Jan 6, 2015

I know you said you checked the fuses, but please check the fuel solenoid fuse again, included a link to operators manual. Post back if is bad as I can tell you most likely why it is blown. Have you checked to see, if you have voltage at the fuel solenoid? If the fuses are good, but no power it is a relay. Are you getting fuel? Take a look at the youtube video not the same tractor, but same engine.

Post back with your findings and we can go from there.

http://manuals.deere.com/omview/OMRE199128_19/?tM=FR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxEDJiIdzcA

Djeakin · Jan 6, 2015

JD5210 said:
I know you said you checked the fuses, but please check the fuel solenoid fuse again, included a link to operators manual. Post back if is bad as I can tell you most likely why it is blown. Have you checked to see, if you have voltage at the fuel solenoid? If the fuses are good, but no power it is a relay. Are you getting fuel? Take a look at the youtube video not the same tractor, but same engine.

Post back with your findings and we can go from there.

http://manuals.deere.com/omview/OMRE199128_19/?tM=FR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxEDJiIdzcA

I checked fuses again and they look good, I didn't have any new ones so I swapped two of them and still nothing. I can here the fuel solenoid click when I turn key on. Would the fuel solenoid keep the engine from turning over? It won't even grunt it's like you tried to start it in gear. I tried in neutral, park, even worked the pto lever back and forth thinking maybe the sensor was messing up. Any ideas?

JD5210 · Jan 7, 2015

I reread your first post, my error. You are right the solenoid has nothing to do with it not turning over. At least on my 5210, the only safety switches are PTO and neutral switch. I have attached a picture of the wiring and starting systems for 5X10. I believe it is close if not the same to 5X20. As you will see from the starting system, since you indicated you could hear the fuel solenoid, it is one of the 2 safety switches, start relay or the starter. I would start by seeing if you have power at the starter and work back from there.

Have you checked the voltage on the battery? I have seen lights work, but the starter not work when the battery is low.

Djeakin · Jan 7, 2015

JD5210 said:
I reread your first post, my error. You are right the solenoid has nothing to do with it not turning over. At least on my 5210, the only safety switches are PTO and neutral switch. I have attached a picture of the wiring and starting systems for 5X10. I believe it is close if not the same to 5X20. As you will see from the starting system, since you indicated you could hear the fuel solenoid, it is one of the 2 safety switches, start relay or the starter. I would start by seeing if you have power at the starter and work back from there.

Have you checked the voltage on the battery? I have seen lights work, but the starter not work when the battery is low.

I shorted across the solenoid and it turned over fine but didn't start and this tractor usually starts real easy.

Djeakin · Jan 7, 2015

I haven't worked on it today. Wind chill is about zero out there.

JD5210 · Jan 7, 2015

When you short the starter solenoid, I would suggest you have a volt meter on the fuel solenoid as the roll of the by-pass relay is to kept it from getting hot wired. Not sure, if even having the key on would keep the by-pass relay from doing its job. My money is on the by-pass relay winning out.

When it warms up I would turn the PTO on and off, if for some reason that switch got stuck. Still no results you will need to see, if you have power at the PTO and neutral switch. Not sure you can get to them without having to take the fenders off.

Djeakin · Jan 7, 2015

JD5210 said:
When you short the starter solenoid, I would suggest you have a volt meter on the fuel solenoid as the roll of the by-pass relay is to kept it from getting hot wired. Not sure, if even having the key on would keep the by-pass relay from doing its job. My money is on the by-pass relay winning out.

When it warms up I would turn the PTO on and off, if for some reason that switch got stuck. Still no results you will need to see, if you have power at the PTO and neutral switch. Not sure you can get to them without having to take the fenders off.

Would it do this if the starter solenoid was out? The last couple months sometime when you start it the starter seems to kick in very hard. Is there some way to check it? But then again it should have started when I crossed the solenoid.

Djeakin · Jan 7, 2015

Where would the pto switch be located?

JD5210 · Jan 7, 2015

Goto JDparts at the link provided (PTO lever and linkage). There are different selections and related pictures not knowing the transmission you have, I might be showing the wrong picture. Looks like the part number is RE42470.

I did attach a picture for the 5x10

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