50hr. service

Bluesteel · Mar 3, 2015

Getting ready to do my 50hr. service. Curious on what weight and brand oil others are using. Thanks.

davesl708 · Mar 3, 2015

Stick with the weight recommended by LS for your temp zone. As to brand and dino vs syn the debate goes on.
My preference is for Shell Rotella T6. For hyd. I use Kubota's SUDT2.

bruceatlam · Mar 3, 2015

I'm using RotellaT 15W-40 engine oil and Kubota UDT hydraulic oil --------

Underdog57 · Mar 4, 2015

I use RotellaT 15-40 engine oil and Travelers Premium Hyd Oil, both available at TSC and use all NAPA filters. If you change the main Hyd filter without changing the Hyd oil be ready with the new filter very quickly because the oil will just keep pouring out until you can get the new filter on!!!! I made the mistake of waiting for the flow of oil to slow down.......bad idea, the oil kept coming and before I got the new filter on I lost 2-3 gallons and had a big mess.

Make sure you read the LS oil & filter thread.

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Bluesteel · Mar 4, 2015

Make sure you read the LS oil & filter thread.

Yes, I read through everything last night. I run RotellaT in my truck so I'll probably use it. Didn't know if someone had better results with one or another. Thanks.

RKJeepXJ · Mar 4, 2015

Someone has posted about parking on a side hill so that the hydro filter is uphill and it greatly reduced the amount of fluid lost. Seems like a good idea if you have a place to do it.

George2615 · Mar 4, 2015

I went with Rotella T6 5W-40 synthetic engine oil on my 50 hr. and Shield brand universal tractor hyd. fluid from AdvanceAuto to top off the fluid lost changing the filter. I used factory LS filters. Went with the 5W-40 and Shield because they are designed for colder temps.

peterc38 · Mar 4, 2015

RKJeepXJ said:
Someone has posted about parking on a side hill so that the hydro filter is uphill and it greatly reduced the amount of fluid lost. Seems like a good idea if you have a place to do it.

On my Kubota I had the wife hold a shop vac at the fill port while I changed hydro filter and didn't lose a drop. The suction creates a vacuum they prevents the fluid escaping.

Bluesteel · Mar 5, 2015

Did any XR4046 owners confirm if the NAPA 1056 oil filter was the correct one?

George2615 · Mar 5, 2015

Bluesteel said:
Did any XR4046 owners confirm if the NAPA 1056 oil filter was the correct one?

These filters were confirmed by NVMYHD for the XR4046 in the filter thread post #123.
I used factory filters when I did mine and probably will at least till I'm out of warranty.
2014 LS XR4046HC Engine Shibaura (Tier 4): N844L-F

Oil filter NAPA # 1056 / WIX # 51056
Fuel filter NAPA # ----- / WIX # -----
Hydraulic Filter NAPA # 1715 / WIX # 51715
Hydro Trans Filter NAPA # 1553 / WIX # 51553
Inner Air Filter NAPA # 6490 / WIX # 46490
Outer Air Filter NAPA # 6489 / WIX # 46489

Please PM NVMYHD to see if he actually used the filters on his list.

lostcreekranch · Mar 6, 2015

Good to know. Thanks George!

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Underdog57 · Mar 6, 2015

peterc38 said:
On my Kubota I had the wife hold a shop vac at the fill port while I changed hydro filter and didn't lose a drop. The suction creates a vacuum they prevents the fluid escaping.

Very interesting! I am a little skeptical, but might give it a try!

peterc38 · Mar 6, 2015

Underdog57 said:
Very interesting! I am a little skeptical, but might give it a try!

It works great. Do a search on the Kubota owning/operating and you will get lots of hits on people that have done it.

Bluesteel · Mar 13, 2015

peterc38 said:
On my Kubota I had the wife hold a shop vac at the fill port while I changed hydro filter and didn't lose a drop. The suction creates a vacuum they prevents the fluid escaping.

I did this and it worked great. I loosened the filter with the wrench enough I could twist it off by hand. I had the new filter ready to go. I showed the wife prior what I wanted and where to hold the hose. I had her turn on the shop vac and when I started backing off the filter I could hear the suction. I spun the new filter on. I did have a clean pan underneath just in case and cardboard down just in case. The only fluid I lost was when I accidently tipped the old filter over.

The real issue I had was getting the transmission dip stick out. Holy crap that thing was stuck. It would turn but would not pull out. The little handle on top isn't enough to get a good hold on. I ended up prying it out. I bought a rubber/brass boat plug and painted the top black. I'll save the dip stick for checking levels when changing. I can look in the hole and visibly see the fluid.

If you have not had this dip stick out for a while I would recommend pulling it out and putting some never seize or light grease on the O rings.

motownbrowne · Mar 14, 2015

Underdog57 said:
Very interesting! I am a little skeptical, but might give it a try!

peterc38 said:
It works great. Do a search on the Kubota owning/operating and you will get lots of hits on people that have done it.

Yep, I did it to after reading about it on here. Works like a charm.

Underdog57 · Mar 14, 2015

motownbrowne said:
Yep, I did it to after reading about it on here. Works like a charm.

I'm convinced!:thumbsup: I'll try it next time (150 hrs. From now!)

kjonfc · Apr 2, 2015

motownbrowne said:
Yep, I did it to after reading about it on here. Works like a charm.

So this doesn't suck the hydro oil up into the vaccuum?

I'm glad I came across this thread as I just hit 50hrs on my G3038. Thanks for the info.

peterc38 · Apr 2, 2015

kjonfc said:
So this doesn't suck the hydro oil up into the vaccuum?

Nope. You might think that it would but it doesn't.

ozley · Apr 4, 2015

kjonfc said:
So this doesn't suck the hydro oil up into the vaccuum? I'm glad I came across this thread as I just hit 50hrs on my G3038. Thanks for the info.

I have used this many times changing defective fire shutoff valves on home 275 gallon oil tanks. It's worked ever time.