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[ShannonCole888]

These are just some of the smaller propertys, I don't have any of the large propertys right now

 

[jordanw]

It's actually pretty simple. If you will be doing anything other than driving around on flat fields in summer time, than definitely buy a four wheel drive tractor. Here are some reasons to get a four wheel drive vs. a two wheel drive.

• Front wheels won't slip in mud or wet grass. It's no fun having the front end slide sideways on a hill.
• Added traction for pulling out stuck vehicles
• Snow plowing, blowing, etc in winter
• Helps resale value in the long run
• Much better maneuverability in muddy, slippery, wet conditions
• Better handling for loader work
• Less abuse on the tractor when pulling logs

The main reasons are maneuverability and traction. I have been on two wheel drive tractors that got stuck for the simple reason that the front wheels weren't doing any pulling, and believe me I was PO'd. On the other hand I have never gotten stuck with a four wheel drive tractor.

Maneuverability is greatly increased by four wheel drive, once again, especially in any conditions that are less than ideal. With a two wheel drive, you will find yourself in situations where the tractor will want to go straight forward when you want to turn.

For me, it wouldn't even begin to be a question.

 

[ShannonCole888]

thanks, unfortunately, I can't use much experience with making my decision in this case... I can't seem to find any video's on youtube, to see how well, the John Deere 5045 tractor, or any of it's predecessors do pulling 2 bottom plows, etc.. I can find plent of Massey Ferguson tractors pulling plows, and they sure do a good job. They make excellent plowing tractors.. TE20, MF30,MF35,MF65, MF130, MF 135,MF 165,MF 188, MF 231, MF 241, MF 255, etc... The Massey Ferguson 2605, appears to be made like the TE20, MF 35, and so on, on the same proven platform design... The tractor I am getting, is mainly going to be a plowing tractor, with heavy red oaks, being lugged around on occassions..John Deere isn't impressing me much in the plowing area right now, from what info I have gathered. I am still evaluating. Anyone know where to find, or what kind of plows might work good with the 5045 JD tractors ? Frontier plows, don't impress me much, the antique one's appear to plow better, but tractorhouse doesn't appear to have many made by JD. Any new manufactures of plows you know of, or a good place to find good antique, or used one's thanks..

 

[jenkinsph]

thanks, unfortunately, I can't use much experience with making my decision in this case... I can't seem to find any video's on youtube, to see how well, the John Deere 5045 tractor, or any of it's predecessors do pulling 2 bottom plows, etc.. I can find plent of Massey Ferguson tractors pulling plows, and they sure do a good job. They make excellent plowing tractors.. TE20, MF30,MF35,MF65, MF130, MF 135,MF 165,MF 188, MF 231, MF 241, MF 255, etc... The Massey Ferguson 2605, appears to be made like the TE20, MF 35, and so on, on the same proven platform design... The tractor I am getting, is mainly going to be a plowing tractor, with heavy red oaks, being lugged around on occassions..John Deere isn't impressing me much in the plowing area right now, from what info I have gathered. I am still evaluating. Anyone know where to find, or what kind of plows might work good with the 5045 JD tractors ? Frontier plows, don't impress me much, the antique one's appear to plow better, but tractorhouse doesn't appear to have many made by JD. Any new manufactures of plows you know of, or a good place to find good antique, or used one's thanks..

That is kind of funny since John Deere was the inventor of the moldboard plow IIRC. The Frontier discs are made by Tuffline at least that is what my dealer told me when shopping for the 1508 pull type.


For most ground engaging tasks you need proper tires and weight, you need the tires to keep turning too. If you compare similar brands and models you can find the right tractor that works for you. I wouldn't get lost in all of this as all of the tractor brands and most all of the implement short lines have equipment that will meet your needs for plowing. It isn't that complicated. Something to consider is that if the plow is going to go deep and penetrate the ground it will take more power to pull it at the proper speed. Lots of the older plows just didn't run deep enough.

 

[RollingsFarms]

here's some videos i found about the 5045D doing similar jobs you described.

John Deere 5045D pulling logs - YouTube

John Deere 5045d digging in the mud 1 - YouTube

 

[jordanw]

To me it appears that money is an issue, but I could be wrong. The fact of the matter is that you literally can't go wrong with any tractor that you buy these days. However, a John Deere is hands down the best choice because of quality and resale value. They are quite simply on top of the heap. Plus, they're all American, which to me is important these days.

I was a Kubota man until about 2 years ago, and I mean a die-hard Kubota nut. They do make one of the best products in the world, and sell about 90,000 of their engines every year for other uses. However, in recent years John Deere has been pulling ahead in terms of design, and Kubota just doesn't match up. It's the little things like mounting/detaching a mower deck, snow blower, brush, maintaining equipment, and getting parts.

The large utility tractors are the same way. About 7 years ago I tried a Case MX 130, and was seriously disappointed. The transmission was very rough when downshifting, the tractor was noisy and vibration was rampant, the interior wasn't well designed, and it didn't have the lugging power of the JD 7410.

Also, the John Deere dealer network is enormous and you can pretty much figure on getting anything you need very quickly.

No doubt this sounds like a John Deere infomercial, but the fact remains, they are on top for good reason. These days I don't look at anything else quite simply because there is no need. Their equipment just works.

Another thing to consider with the Massey are the fenders. This might not sound like much, but if they ever get muddy, you're going to be splattered.

 

[ShannonCole888]

Yes, the John Deere, quality appears to be about the best. Massey Ferguson, and John Deere I believe are the two best, above the rest. Massey Ferguson, is Canadian, American, English, and Irish all in one.. Alot of American's are of some kind of English, or Irish decent. The front axle of the John Deere 5045e is made in China... I wasn't suprised, but not impressed. What is more American than a John Deere tractor ? The rest of it is built in India. The same is true about Massey Ferguson's utility tractors, built in India. New Holland, Case, only Kubota is built in Japan, and assembled in the US at dealers, well the smaller ones. It is my understanding that only the Largest of the tractors, by these manufactures are built in the Country their plants are..

 

[ShannonCole888]

If it wasn't for the paint job on the 2600 series, I would probably already have my decision made one of them. I had seen those video's of the 5045d, that log is much smaller, than what I plan on moving around. That log in the video is about a third in diamter of what I plan on lugging around..I am not worried about the 5045d having the power to lug it around, but I haven't been able to check out it doing plow work. The old antique John Deere tractors seem to do ok at plowing, but I haven't found any utility size tractor video's of John Deere tractors doing plow work..Not enough to satisfy me. I could probably put some weights on it, maybe some tire ballast, with a proven plow, and get the quality plow job I am looking for..

 

[ShannonCole888]

The John Deere's overall build quality seem's to be better than the rest, but I am no sure about overall design.. The thing that concerns me, is the need to ballast it, to make it a good plowing, and tilling tractor. That makes me feel like enough thought may have not been put into this tractor's design. Things like maybe the rear end doesn't have enough weight directed over it, or is that the weight distribution is not balanced properly in it's design. If you notice older model John Deere tractors, the front end of the tractor is up higher, than the rear, placing a greater percentage of the tractor's weight over the rear drive axle..

 

[ShannonCole888]

Massey Ferguson tractors seem to be better designed overall to me, the thing that bothers me about Massey Ferguson is the paint job on some models. John Deere seems to put a good fit, and finish on the tractor, but their overall design makes me cautious some what.. On newer models. Like for example, I seen some John Deere tractors that had rolled over, and the broke in half.. The broke in half, where they piece together in the middle, this seemed to me, to be a weak design flaw in the tractor's design.

 

[RickS]

Here is my $.02: my brother-in-law works for John Deere in Waterloo, IA. He works in the field mapping/GPS guided tractor type stuff. I mentioned to him that I was looking at a 5045e and he found a guy who has training/authority over those tractors. The man said that they are engineered to run for 10,000 hours of farming in India. They are a sturdy, basic tractor. The only area he said to keep an eye on is the dry clutch. You can't slip it.

 

[Verticaltrx]

The 5045d will pull a two bottom plow without a bit of trouble. Whenever I use the 2 bottom plow behind our 5045e I leave it in 2wd and it works fine. It only has one set of wheel weights and fluid filled tires. My little NAA Ford also pulls the same plow, although not as easily.

Based on the pics of your terrain (fairly level) I would suggest the 2wd tractor if field work was all you were going to be doing. Still not sure on pulling the logs, some of those big oak logs can get really heavy, possibly beyond the capabilities of even the 5045e.

Basically it comes down to this, if you have the money for the 5045e buy it, you won't regret it. If you're under a strict budget the 5045d would do most everything you want and should be able to pull the majority of your logs, might just have to make some of them a bit shorter or take two trips.

 

[58JD420]

Just bought a 5055e after years of using 2wd tractors and the difference is amazing. In the sandy soil of south Alabama it's a must. It's a different tractor when you put it in 4wd. Don't forget resale with a 4wd, I can't give my 2wd away. First thing people ask when they call is whether it's 4wd.

 

[jenkinsph]

Just bought a 5055e after years of using 2wd tractors and the difference is amazing. In the sandy soil of south Alabama it's a must. It's a different tractor when you put it in 4wd. Don't forget resale with a 4wd, I can't give my 2wd away. First thing people ask when they call is whether it's 4wd.

Does Dothan still have the large equipment auctions? I remember attending some of those in the late 1960's.

 

[ShannonCole888]

I drove upto Gallipolis, OH yesterday, and looked at some Massey Ferguson tractors, I looked at the 1600 series, and I looked at a 2615 4wd, and2635 4wd. The 1600 series seems to look like a nice compact, but the rearend does seem to be what I am looking for. I liked the 2615 they had, they had two of them there. They also had a 2635 which I also liked real well. They had a huge used John Deere 4020 2wd there, that thing was big in comparison to what I am looking at..

 

[ShannonCole888]

He also sold New Holland, I looked at some Boomer 35's, 40's, and 50's he had. He also had one workmaster 45 4wd there too.

 

[jordanw]

So...did you end up going with the John Deere or Massey?

 

[ShannonCole888]

I haven't decided, or bought one yet. I don't plan on getting one till around March, along as everything goes right.. I went to Bluefield, WV the other day to look at some more John Deere's. I have went to two John Deere Dealer's, three Massey Ferguson Dealers, two Kubota Dealer's, and two New Holland Dealer's, no Case IH dealers though. The JD dealer at Bluefield, WV told me he had 0% interest available to me on the 5055E I looked at, without loader it was $23,500.00 before tax, for 62 months.He figured up a rough monthly payment of $336.00 or something like that,with nothing down. The 5055e with loader was $28,500.00, same 0% interest. Insurance is a one time a year fee of about $300.00. Warranty is ony 2 years, I wish I could get a 4 year warranty on this model. He told me they had a deal of two free implements, or something with my purchase. I am not sure what kind of deal that was. I told him I was looking for a plow, and tiller. I told him I would probably be ready by March to buy the tractor. The tractor I looked at had the 16.9-28 size rear tires, so it had the largest tire size for the 5055E model available through John Deere. He said he would also include free ballast.Water/Antifreeze ballast would add 500lbs per rear tire, 250lbs per front tire, adding about 1500lbs to the weight of the tractor, so the tracotr would weigh around 6000lbs without loader.John Deere rear wheel weights weigh 95lbs each, and are limited to only 2 weights per rim. So I could add an additional 380lbs to the rear as well. I am still evaluating, the situation. If I pay that kind of money for something, and work to pay for it, I am going to make sure I am satisfied with my decision, when I have made mine.

 

[ShannonCole888]

The Bluefield dealer was also a Wood's implement dealer too..He had wood's implements

 

[Jon Chanoski]

I have also been considering getting a 5045e, I went to the dealer today, and looked at one.. Do you think it will can handle heavy red oaks, pulling them? Was it the low end torque that seemed to lack? It is the low end torque I am looking for, do you think the 5055e.or 5065e would be needed. I thought 22,000 was a bit high for the 5045e, but I don't desire to invest that much money in a tractor, and find out it is lacking in a place I need. 30 in diameter oak logs, and some even larger, up to 20ft, of course I can cut them up smaller in length, but your insight is appreciated, thanks.... I had looked at the 2600 series from Massey Ferguson, anyone know if the massey ferguson's have the low end. I like the JD's though..

I couldn't tell you about the 5055e and 5065e but I have a 5075e that has pulled an F350 12ft stakebed uphill with the brakes locked and a bale wagon with 8 600lb round bales on it hooked to the truck. I pulled it up the steep gas well road in 2nd gear and the tractor never even knew it was there. I have no dout that it could pull the logs you talk about.