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[ShannonCole888]

These are just some of the smaller propertys, I don't have any of the large propertys right now

 

[jordanw]

It's actually pretty simple. If you will be doing anything other than driving around on flat fields in summer time, than definitely buy a four wheel drive tractor. Here are some reasons to get a four wheel drive vs. a two wheel drive.

• Front wheels won't slip in mud or wet grass. It's no fun having the front end slide sideways on a hill.
• Added traction for pulling out stuck vehicles
• Snow plowing, blowing, etc in winter
• Helps resale value in the long run
• Much better maneuverability in muddy, slippery, wet conditions
• Better handling for loader work
• Less abuse on the tractor when pulling logs

The main reasons are maneuverability and traction. I have been on two wheel drive tractors that got stuck for the simple reason that the front wheels weren't doing any pulling, and believe me I was PO'd. On the other hand I have never gotten stuck with a four wheel drive tractor.

Maneuverability is greatly increased by four wheel drive, once again, especially in any conditions that are less than ideal. With a two wheel drive, you will find yourself in situations where the tractor will want to go straight forward when you want to turn.

For me, it wouldn't even begin to be a question.

 

[ShannonCole888]

thanks, unfortunately, I can't use much experience with making my decision in this case... I can't seem to find any video's on youtube, to see how well, the John Deere 5045 tractor, or any of it's predecessors do pulling 2 bottom plows, etc.. I can find plent of Massey Ferguson tractors pulling plows, and they sure do a good job. They make excellent plowing tractors.. TE20, MF30,MF35,MF65, MF130, MF 135,MF 165,MF 188, MF 231, MF 241, MF 255, etc... The Massey Ferguson 2605, appears to be made like the TE20, MF 35, and so on, on the same proven platform design... The tractor I am getting, is mainly going to be a plowing tractor, with heavy red oaks, being lugged around on occassions..John Deere isn't impressing me much in the plowing area right now, from what info I have gathered. I am still evaluating. Anyone know where to find, or what kind of plows might work good with the 5045 JD tractors ? Frontier plows, don't impress me much, the antique one's appear to plow better, but tractorhouse doesn't appear to have many made by JD. Any new manufactures of plows you know of, or a good place to find good antique, or used one's thanks..

 

[jenkinsph]

thanks, unfortunately, I can't use much experience with making my decision in this case... I can't seem to find any video's on youtube, to see how well, the John Deere 5045 tractor, or any of it's predecessors do pulling 2 bottom plows, etc.. I can find plent of Massey Ferguson tractors pulling plows, and they sure do a good job. They make excellent plowing tractors.. TE20, MF30,MF35,MF65, MF130, MF 135,MF 165,MF 188, MF 231, MF 241, MF 255, etc... The Massey Ferguson 2605, appears to be made like the TE20, MF 35, and so on, on the same proven platform design... The tractor I am getting, is mainly going to be a plowing tractor, with heavy red oaks, being lugged around on occassions..John Deere isn't impressing me much in the plowing area right now, from what info I have gathered. I am still evaluating. Anyone know where to find, or what kind of plows might work good with the 5045 JD tractors ? Frontier plows, don't impress me much, the antique one's appear to plow better, but tractorhouse doesn't appear to have many made by JD. Any new manufactures of plows you know of, or a good place to find good antique, or used one's thanks..

That is kind of funny since John Deere was the inventor of the moldboard plow IIRC. The Frontier discs are made by Tuffline at least that is what my dealer told me when shopping for the 1508 pull type.


For most ground engaging tasks you need proper tires and weight, you need the tires to keep turning too. If you compare similar brands and models you can find the right tractor that works for you. I wouldn't get lost in all of this as all of the tractor brands and most all of the implement short lines have equipment that will meet your needs for plowing. It isn't that complicated. Something to consider is that if the plow is going to go deep and penetrate the ground it will take more power to pull it at the proper speed. Lots of the older plows just didn't run deep enough.

 

[RollingsFarms]

here's some videos i found about the 5045D doing similar jobs you described.

John Deere 5045D pulling logs - YouTube

John Deere 5045d digging in the mud 1 - YouTube

 

[jordanw]

To me it appears that money is an issue, but I could be wrong. The fact of the matter is that you literally can't go wrong with any tractor that you buy these days. However, a John Deere is hands down the best choice because of quality and resale value. They are quite simply on top of the heap. Plus, they're all American, which to me is important these days.

I was a Kubota man until about 2 years ago, and I mean a die-hard Kubota nut. They do make one of the best products in the world, and sell about 90,000 of their engines every year for other uses. However, in recent years John Deere has been pulling ahead in terms of design, and Kubota just doesn't match up. It's the little things like mounting/detaching a mower deck, snow blower, brush, maintaining equipment, and getting parts.

The large utility tractors are the same way. About 7 years ago I tried a Case MX 130, and was seriously disappointed. The transmission was very rough when downshifting, the tractor was noisy and vibration was rampant, the interior wasn't well designed, and it didn't have the lugging power of the JD 7410.

Also, the John Deere dealer network is enormous and you can pretty much figure on getting anything you need very quickly.

No doubt this sounds like a John Deere infomercial, but the fact remains, they are on top for good reason. These days I don't look at anything else quite simply because there is no need. Their equipment just works.

Another thing to consider with the Massey are the fenders. This might not sound like much, but if they ever get muddy, you're going to be splattered.

 

[ShannonCole888]

Yes, the John Deere, quality appears to be about the best. Massey Ferguson, and John Deere I believe are the two best, above the rest. Massey Ferguson, is Canadian, American, English, and Irish all in one.. Alot of American's are of some kind of English, or Irish decent. The front axle of the John Deere 5045e is made in China... I wasn't suprised, but not impressed. What is more American than a John Deere tractor ? The rest of it is built in India. The same is true about Massey Ferguson's utility tractors, built in India. New Holland, Case, only Kubota is built in Japan, and assembled in the US at dealers, well the smaller ones. It is my understanding that only the Largest of the tractors, by these manufactures are built in the Country their plants are..

 

[ShannonCole888]

If it wasn't for the paint job on the 2600 series, I would probably already have my decision made one of them. I had seen those video's of the 5045d, that log is much smaller, than what I plan on moving around. That log in the video is about a third in diamter of what I plan on lugging around..I am not worried about the 5045d having the power to lug it around, but I haven't been able to check out it doing plow work. The old antique John Deere tractors seem to do ok at plowing, but I haven't found any utility size tractor video's of John Deere tractors doing plow work..Not enough to satisfy me. I could probably put some weights on it, maybe some tire ballast, with a proven plow, and get the quality plow job I am looking for..

 

[ShannonCole888]

The John Deere's overall build quality seem's to be better than the rest, but I am no sure about overall design.. The thing that concerns me, is the need to ballast it, to make it a good plowing, and tilling tractor. That makes me feel like enough thought may have not been put into this tractor's design. Things like maybe the rear end doesn't have enough weight directed over it, or is that the weight distribution is not balanced properly in it's design. If you notice older model John Deere tractors, the front end of the tractor is up higher, than the rear, placing a greater percentage of the tractor's weight over the rear drive axle..

 

[ShannonCole888]

Massey Ferguson tractors seem to be better designed overall to me, the thing that bothers me about Massey Ferguson is the paint job on some models. John Deere seems to put a good fit, and finish on the tractor, but their overall design makes me cautious some what.. On newer models. Like for example, I seen some John Deere tractors that had rolled over, and the broke in half.. The broke in half, where they piece together in the middle, this seemed to me, to be a weak design flaw in the tractor's design.