5045

   / 5045 #21  
I would have assumed that low end torque is needed to get the heavy weight to begin to move, I don't know of anyone that has all the 45d's 45e's, 55d's, and 55e's on hand but the dealer, to compare them between themselves. I don't always trust the dealer's advice, you know what I mean. " Yeah you'll need a bigger tractor ", ..you know what I mean.. then comes the $$$$ with them..
 
   / 5045 #22  
Without a loader I wouldn't be as apt to get the 5045e over the 5045d, but the 4wd would give a bit more pulling power for hauling those logs. Also, the transmission on the 5045e is MUCH nicer. Having the synchronized transmission is a huge plus IMO. If I were just looking for a tractor to do hay work or other light field work I'd probably go with the 2wd model. For what you describe the 4wd would definitely be beneficial.
 
   / 5045 #23  
I do plan on pulling heavy red oak logs, from time to time. Plowing, and tillage work is my main intentions with this tractor. A lot of two wheel drive tractors have shown to me, they got the job done, Do you think a 2 wheel drive will do? Thanks, $6,000.00 is quite a bit more, plus I plan on getting a plow, tiller, spreader, etc in the near future to...If I honesty believe the 4wd is the wiser choice then I would, but if 2wd is adequate, then ok. I mean the hp is the same, still has locking diffs. 8f4r trans, I'm a truck driver, so I do my research when I can. I also considered the 5065e 2wd, what do you think about that. I live in Logan Co., WV
 
   / 5045 #24  
The more I hear your intentions, the more I think you will benefit from 4wd. To me, the difference is night and day. :thumbsup:
 
   / 5045 #25  
I run a cut, not ag, but I can easily see why many small tractors come with mfwd. Notably, I was using a box blade on an old arena, and the sand required extra traction. Also, even if you get a loader someday, which I think a lot of guys recommend, it is very helpful. We just planted trees by the side of a road so I have been moving dirt and mulch. Without 4wd, the project would have taken a lot longer, because I could go in front first. I am sure that on a bigger tractor the need becomes less though. But even though I have thought many options such as this to be extravagant, it is a tool and I think it should be as well equipped as possible...
 
   / 5045 #26  
I do plan on pulling heavy red oak logs, from time to time. Plowing, and tillage work is my main intentions with this tractor. A lot of two wheel drive tractors have shown to me, they got the job done, Do you think a 2 wheel drive will do? Thanks, $6,000.00 is quite a bit more, plus I plan on getting a plow, tiller, spreader, etc in the near future to...If I honesty believe the 4wd is the wiser choice then I would, but if 2wd is adequate, then ok. I mean the hp is the same, still has locking diffs. 8f4r trans, I'm a truck driver, so I do my research when I can. I also considered the 5065e 2wd, what do you think about that. I live in Logan Co., WV



If this is your only tractor then I would get 4x4, there are lots of uses where a 4x2 tractor will suffice but working in the woods pulling trees is not one of them. Years ago everyone had 4x2 tractors and they got the job done, but the 4x4 tractors are much better and available today. In the past all of my tractors were 4x2 and so were the various trucks. Now all the trucks and tractors I have bought in the last 12 years have been 4x4 because it makes such a difference in what I can do.
 
   / 5045 #27  
With a good amount of ballast (rear wheel weights, fluid filled tires) a 2wd 5045d would have no trouble pulling a 2 bottom plow, 7' disc, tiller, or a 6' box blade. The key to 2wd is proper ballasting. The 5065e is a little step up as I believe it is slightly heavier, and it also has the better 9F/3R transmission. I noticed you said you were from WV, how steep is the terrain where you live? That is also an important factor. If it is fairly hilly or mountainous then the 4wd would definitely get my vote.

We have one 2wd tractor that we use a lot and it is a JD 2550, 65 hp and weighs about 10,000lbs fully ballasted. It does good on most hills unless you have to back up a hill, then it is pretty tough. It would pull the size logs you talk about without much trouble, but it is also a lot more tractor than the 5000d or e series. Basically the only way to make up for 2wd is A LOT of weight.
 
   / 5045 #28  
Go with the 4WD. Started out the with a 2WD. Read all the posts, grew up on 2WD machines and thought since I was getting a 50 HP tractor it would be comparable to the old 50 HP machine. I was wrong. I had a 2WD 5105 which is very similar to the 5045. I now have a JD 5303 4WD and am much happier with this unit. If the 5105 had been 4WD I believe I would have stayed with it. Having now had both, I don't believe I would go back to a 2WD.

As for pricing, I have seen several good used units for sale on Tractor House. Recently found a 2008 JD 5303 4WD with FEL for around $22,000. You may also find a dealer selling these and be able to work out a trade that way too.
 
   / 5045 #29  
This will be my first tractor. I again went over to the John Deere dealer today, with a friend. I again looked the 2wd over, and the 4wd 5045e over. The 2wd is $15,000.00, the JD tiller I may get is $3,100.00, plus a good plow, and Equipment trailer as well..(As well as all the other attachments) Somewhere around $20,000.00 dollars. I still have to buy the property, but in my financial situation, the tractor will come first, then the property, then a house, etc... I will use it where I currently live, but I am going to be moving up north in the near future, unless something happens. When I get the new piece of land, I would also like to not be owing on the land, then go finance a tractor. I should already have the tool payed for to work the land. That way I can focus on paying off the land, as I work it. One thing at a time basically. As for the topography of the land, hilly in places, steep in places, flat in places. I won't likely be taking the tractor in the steep areas, just for safetly reasons, the JD's have a lot of ground clearance, don't know about center of gravity on them. Buying the $21,000.00-$23,000.00 5045e is going to cost me $6,000 more than the $15,000.00 / Tractor = $ 23,000.00 + Equipment trailer = $1200.00-$2500.00 + Tiller = $3100.00 + plow = $1200.00 - Grand Total $ 29,000.00 ( This does not include other attachments, and items such as, rotary cutter, spreader, seeder, manure spreader, harvester, etc..) which will be made later on as a second purchase.. I have considered used equipment, but somethings, will need to be new..... Experienced advise is appreciated, and respected. So, I thank you for your honest account from experience what any of you believe you would do, again from your experiences. It would be nice to operate both of these machines I am looking at, to know first hand, what I discerned to be adequate for myself. I don't plan on taking the tractor off roading per say, but to lug around some downed oaks, and fresh cut oaks for fire wood, and stuff.. Yes 4wd would probably make it easier, but living in WV, all my life, off roading quite a bit with lots of ATV's,and pickups. I can see the benefits of 4wd on an ATV,and pickup truck. I don't think I would ever by an ATV that was 2wd, but a tractor I don't know. I have never owned a tractor. So experienced tractor operators, that have worked with both are sought after, for insight, and advise, again thanks for being transparent on these bloggs.. A side by side comparison, of advantages of the two between themselves would be great. Benefits of one over the other, good, and bads.. I'm a working man, not a money seeking man. I'd rather work, than make money, If I spend my money, if it isn't feeding the hungry, it's on something that I can do some work with..my mouth craves it from me.. So, If $6,000.00 more is what is better in the long run, and more practical, then that's what I would do, but if it is like buying an automatic transmission, over a manual, or power door locks, over the manual basic kind, or leather over cloth, then give me the 2wd. The easier you make it labor wise, the more stressfull, and vexing it becomes it seems..
 
   / 5045 #30  
Get the E version buy more used equipment to offset diference in cost or spread it out over time instead of one big purchase. You will be disappointed hauling logs with a 2wd. The extra traction provided by mfwd will be like adding hp
 

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