4wd tractor vs 2wd

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Oh another thing, If I were going to get a backhoe, I might indeed get a 4wd model
 
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I would like to also state that on a lot of older tractors, and some newer ones, the front axle raised the front of the tractor a little bit, so that the majority of the weight of the tractor is leaning back on the rear of the tractor, directing the weight transfer over the rear drive wheels. I am pretty sure that tractor manufactures are aware of these principles, but 4wd tractors sometimes just look like your getting more. I believe you can make both work for you. I believe a person can learn to be content. The video of the horse farm, now that was muddy. I still believe I would get a 2wd tractor, but one that was designed properly, Front wheel assist tractors don't appeal to me that much, but they may be better suited for some people. I mainly plan on plowing, pulling heavy oak logs. I believe I can get by with 2wd myself. I would like to bring into mind that, old timers had the option of 4wd, but the majority never got 4wd, and they probably used their tractors more the most of todays tractor operators.
 
/ 4wd tractor vs 2wd #143  
I mean some of them are still running 1940 model 2wd tractors, every season.
 
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I would also like to explain, I use to own a Kawasaki Brute Force 750 4x4 ATV, that had a front locking differiential. That ATV had ITP Wheels, and Tires. The Tires were 26 in Mudlite XL's If your not familiar with them, then you can check them out, that are similiar to AG tires in tread design. When I would go offroading, through mud, over logs, up steep hills, over rocks, etc.. 4 Wheel Drive would have be the appropriate thing to have. 2 Wheel drive, would have been real difficult to take a lot of places I took it. The thing with an atv though, it is not a tractor. It isn't designed like a tractor, it has 4 equal tires, with a mid engine design, that places an evenly distributed weight over all 4 tires. It was effective in muddy conditions etc.. I have 4 wheel drive Toyota Tacoma pickup truck. I drive in 2 wheel drive 98% of the time. My truck could serve every need I have basically in 2 wheel drive, but 4 wheel drive does come in handy in the winter, and other situations, It does. I expect to use the 4wd in it though like that. I have taken it off roading by the way. If you know the topography of Southern West Virginia, yes there is plenty of steep mountains to climb, mudding, and off roading, etc. I have seen some video's of people take 2 wheel drive Fergies off roading, that seemed to get by ok. I don't reall plan on doing that, but my point is for what I plan on doing, 2wd will likely work best for me. If I get stuck in the field, I will likely be able to use my pickup truck to pull it out.
 
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The Massey Ferguson 2605 is priced about $12,000.00 The 2650HD would probably be about $22,000.00 The 2625 maybe somewhere around $19,000.00 The NH T4020-t4030 I am not sure, I wouldn't pay anymore than $19,000-$22,000 though. The Farmall 70 is about $19,000.00 new. The John Deere 5045d is about $12,000.00, there prices don't include any implements, or attachments of any kind either. I am considering a good plow. I have looked at Kuhn's Master 102 2 bottom Reverse Roll Over plow, but I don't know the price of it. It is probably quite pricey. I looked at some used Massey Ferguson #43 plows, 2 bottom. I would like to find a good 16 in one bottom plow though, if I could find one. I looked at the King Kutters, Howse, Leinbach, ETA, County Line, Frontier, and some others, but I wasn't too impressed with the quality of the metal they seem to be made out of. Kuhn has some moulboards, and plowshears made out what appears to be high quality steels. I considered ordering them, and building my own plow. Leinbach line seems a little better than the rest of the ones I mentioned though. ETA is working on a full size plow. I don't know when they will have it available. I have been looking for some older reconditioned plows. I believe those may be one of the better routes to go, if not. I can build one I suppose.
 
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I'll also need a rotary cutter, rotary tiller, cultivator, maybe a gardenbedder. I plan on raising wheat, so I will need some kind of grain harvester, and stuff. I located an old Allis chalmers grain harvester, but it would need some reconditioning, though it works. I will also be looking for a manure spreader, and a seeder too. I have considered Kuhns rotary tillers, they appear to be about the best availabe for around my size of tractor. I looked at King Kutters pretty closely too. I'll have to be sort patient with all of this, I don't want to go in debt or anything. I plan on getting the plow,rotary cutter, and rotary tiller first. Then the grain harvesting equipment, whatever I find will work. I will likely go with a used manure spreader, that I will likely have to restore too. They are just so expensive for what they are. I found an old New Idea, that is in my State, that looks pretty good. It could use a new paint job, and some work, but it was only about $1,500.00 I think. It may have been more than that I don't recall. The grain harvest pull behind type, was about $6,000.00, that isn't including anything invested in it, to restore it for work.
 
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2+2 = (select the correct answer please) 5,17,39.-3, 58,-27,329 :confused2:

4wd TLBs have a counter weight on the front to balance the extendahoe. The same TLB without 4wd will still have the front weight(about 800lbs) to balance the extendahoe. 4wd/2wd without the extendahoe will have a metal plate to fill in the front, to make the front look complete.
 
/ 4wd tractor vs 2wd #151  
Well, it sounds like your mind is made up and nothing anyone else can say will change it, so good luck with your 2wd tractor.

Aaron Z
 
/ 4wd tractor vs 2wd #152  
ShannonCole,

You seem to be overly concerned with a tractor's weight distribution as it comes from the factory. The fact is that 4wd is helpful in many situations, and if you don't need it you can ballast your tractor to suit your needs for any given task while still having the ability to switch into 4wd if you ever find yourself needing a bit of extra pull.
 
/ 4wd tractor vs 2wd #153  
No one will state 2WD is better than 4WD when working in the dirt. I had to look hard to find the 2WD 2002 Blazer and 2003 Escalade because we just have NO need for it and both had over 100K miles on them at time of purchase so I did not want the potential associated repairs.

I would not consider a 4WD backhoe for same upkeep concern in a 30 year old worn out piece of heavy equipment. It does not have to be moved because I do not make a living with it nor do I want to be out in the mud.

With major physical limits the FEL and BH are awesome for lifting and spotting things by moving a few controls that I could never do by hand or a boom pole as well.

With that being said if it was not for pulling myself out with the hoe from time to time I would be getting the BH stuck.

For my retirement toys $$$ is a major concern. Spending $10K for a full size backhoe and a 16' flat dump truck I could come to grips with because about any day I can get most of that back plus I have no need for equipment that will still be good working equipment in 50 years.:laughing:
 
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I live in Louisiana where the ground can be anyhting but stable. I have a Kubota M4030SU 2wd with a Great Bend 360FEL. I have moved large(1200-1500lb) rolls of hay and stacked them 3-high without any problem. I have never had the need or wanted the increase maint. for a 4wd tractor. Of course I have the 14.9x28 rear tires filled with ballast and as said above, if I ever need moreweight on the rear, I can hook up an implement such as my Wood's 6ft rotary cutter which weighs 1125lbs. But I have rarely have the need for additional weight. Just like a 4wd truck, there are a lot more moving parts like bearings etc that can go out. I'm not against 4wd tractors as I have a lot of friends that swear by them, but i've never had the need for the little extra traction a 4wd provides.:)
 
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Just today I was moving heavy buckets of fill dirt through a slightly wet condition dirt.I thought something was wrong, as the tractor went straight and the front wheels were turning up dirt.
I realized I hadn't gone into 4 wheel I reached down and pulled it in and the front wheels pulled instead of sliding and ripping the dirt.
I wasn't aware of any maint I should have done to the front wheel drive system its 23 year old and only had two seals replaced. Not much to maintain in my mind..
All and all it depends of your working conditions...
 
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A lot of 4wd equiped tractors won't work as well as ones that are only 2wd, if switched from 4wd to 2wd, because of the ballast issue. What I mean, is it won't be like that same tractor, that is a 2wd model, when you switch it from 4wd to 2wd. It won't be the same is a 2wd only tractor of the same model. Not all tractors are improperly ballasted from the factor, but usually a tractor that is on a proven design, that is, one that has been 2wd for a certain amount of years, then began being equiped with 4wd tends to not work as effective as it did in 2wd, even though the 4wd may add additional traction.
 
/ 4wd tractor vs 2wd #159  
I haven't found a 4wd tractor that I like yet.. I don't forsee myself bying a 4wd tractor too much as of now.. I would spend the same amount I would pay for a 4wd tractor on a larger 2wd. It is just the type of work I plan on using it on. I would say my mind is made up pretty much so.
 
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