Backhoe 48 Backhoe hydraulic hoses question

[adegiulio]

I have a 4310 with the 48 backhoe. Over time, both of the hydraulic lines that connect to the power beyond have needed replacement. I replaced them both with hoses I had made at Napa. Well, they have done their job, but since they were a little longer than the originals, they tend to kink up and get in the way. Well, this weekend when I was putting the hoe on, I was careless and pinched a hole in one of them.

So, the question is...I'm getting annoyed with these hoses not really fitting in the way they should (anyone who has put the backhoe on knows what I mean). Should I buy original parts from Deere (which will be insanely expensive I'm sure) or is there a website that carries well made replacements, OR should I have another set made up at Napa. Does anyone know the right length for those hoses if I do have them made?

Thanks for any help

A

 

[atschirner]

JD Parts lists the connecting hoses as part number AM127908 @ $101 each. I think i would take another pass at NAPA or hose shop.

 

[adegiulio]

Holy moly!! That is just insane. Does it by chance list the length on those hoses?

 

[dfkrug]

Should I buy original parts from Deere (which will be insanely expensive I'm sure) or is there a website that carries well made replacements, OR should I have another set made up at Napa.

There IS another choice.....just buy pre-made hoses for about $20 each
from a place like Surplus Center or Harbor Fright.

The length is a compromise between being long enough to be able to
operate the hoe off the tractor to get in on/off the subframe, and short
enough to store easily out of the way when the hoe is installed. Consider
re-routing the hoses in less vulnerable places for when the hoe is mounted.
In my experience on other CUTs, making the PB loop QAs hang free (rather
than connect to a bulkhead) gives some additional flexibility in terms of
routing the loops of "extra" hose.

 

[xrjohndeere]

I have the 48 hoe on my 4520. I have had to repair a few hoses. The mechanic at johndeere told me I would be money ahead to go to napa and use their hoses and couplings. He said the ones which came on the hoe where not a good qaulity or coupler.. I have had a couple hoses just blow right out of the coupler crimp. Look on the bright side, hydraulic hoses only break when you use them or are in need to use them..

 

[adegiulio]

Ha, so true...So it seems the consensus is to go to Napa...which is good because they are cheap.

So, does anyone know how long these hoses should be? I liked the original length best.

 

[adegiulio]

I'm bumping this old thread up because I still have problems with my hoses being too long. Does anyone know the exact length of the OEM hoses?

Thanks!

 

[Zebrafive]

If you go to JDparts.com you can find the hoses you want to know about. Put them in the cart. Then click view cart. Then click on the part number (it wil be in blue). This will open a new window showing the specs. The will be a place at the top to change the specs from english to metric. You will get ID length, end type, threads of ends, etc.

 

[adegiulio]

Thank you for the help. I followed your directions exactly, but the only specs I get are weight, price, and availability...

 

[adegiulio]

Wow, I'm all over the internet searching for these specs, and I can't find a thing. Very frustrating!

 

[smalltown]

adegiulio I've got the JD 46 backhoe and had searched as you are now for hose lenghts. I bumped onto pictures of the Bush Hog backhoe and realized Bush Hog must have made the 46 for John Deere. John Deere had a subframe added rather than the 3ph in the manual.

It's my opinion that my JD46 is the same as the Bush Hog 665H. They may well have made the JD 48 as well.

There are 4 models listed in the owners manual that you can download: MODELS 665H / 765H / 865H / 965H yours may well be one of the others listed.

I took the 665H information and searched Messicks web site for a hydro parts blowup and it listed all the individual parts including hose lengths and the end fittings.

Take a peek at the Bushhog site. If you don't see the manual send me a PM. I have a copy on my computer and will send it to you tonight when I return.

Hope that might help

smalltown

 

[adegiulio]

Thanks for the info. I looked on their website, but they don't have information. I called Messicks and they are calling Bush Hog to find out, and will get back to me. I think it's easier to get the nuclear launch codes than the length of these hoses.

 

[rambler]

Wouldn't a tape measure solve your problem?

Measure the original hoses. Have Napa or a fleet & farm store make replacements to that length.

If you no longer have the originals, measure the hoses you have. Then with the hose disconnected, hold the hose about how long you think is good. Measure the excess and subtract that from your hose length, and have Napa make a hose to that length.

"I want this hose, but (6, 12, whatever) inches shorter."

Seems pretty easy?

--->Paul

 

[adegiulio]

Yeah, I don't have the originals. I know I can just make the ones I have shorter, but the originals had the perfect balance of length while not getting in the way when the backhoe is on. Sure I can just keep the trial and error method, but I'd prefer just doing it right once.

 

[Zebrafive]

Thank you for the help. I followed your directions exactly, but the only specs I get are weight, price, and availability...

JDparts must not have everything up to date for specs. I have checked several loader hoses and found all the specs.

Sorry it did not have what you needed

 

[adegiulio]

Well, I appreciate the help nonetheless..

 

[Zebrafive]

Not sure what the differences are between a 48 BH and a 488 BH, but for the 488 parts lists the hoses at 65"

 

[AKfish]

I'm reasonably confident that Amerequip manufacturered the JD48 backhoe. You might try to contact them here: Tractor Attachments by Amerequip Corporation

Good luck.

AKfish

 

[pat32rf]

I use my power beyond for a couple of woodsplitters as well as my hoe so I've had a couple of "extension" hoses made up with the same QD's as the hoe and splitter. The short one is about 24" long with a male 90 deg on one end. The other is about 5' long with straight QD's.
There are times when the hoe has settled or the tractor isn't lined up when it really helps to be able to extend the hoses....