Buying Advice 4720 or 5085m

[corey9212]

I haven't made a payment since I traded in my 5085M. But I only have 3 and my payments are 15,000 each.

WOW, what tractors are they for such payments?

 

[AKfish]

WOW, what tractors are they for such payments?

I guess you haven't looked at your payment book, yet.. Edward has his loan structured to pay the tractor off in "quarters". Lot's of 'em! :laughing:

AKfish

 

[corey9212]

I guess you haven't looked at your payment book, yet.. Edward has his loan structured to pay the tractor off in "quarters". Lot's of 'em! :laughing:

AKfish

My payment will be monthly, but I don't know exact numbers cause he won't have the paperwork till everything is in (for serial numbers) the loader is 3 weeks away so basically he's giving me the tractor for 1 month free to use before payments start coming out.

 

[Edward. S]

Whoa... now, that's some real lettuce - Edward!

AKfish

Yeah I guess so! I traded my 6420! For a 7230R and a 6430 Premium with a Loader and fat tires. Loads the new holland 195 full with 6 buckets! My payments are usually semi annual or annual.

 

[fjcruiser]

Congrats on the purchase corey9212. I hope the tractor works out with your back issues. I didn't sit in one of the cab tractors, I new I would want one. Everything I've read from people claim the air seat in those is quite comfortable.

 

[corey9212]

Congrats on the purchase corey9212. I hope the tractor works out with your back issues. I didn't sit in one of the cab tractors, I new I would want one. Everything I've read from people claim the air seat in those is quite comfortable.

I did test the air seat in the dealers yard (lots of lot holes) and it works great, I barely felt the biggest pot hole. I'm sure it will work great for me. I just hope it is a good tractor cause there isn't much info on it on the net in terms of reviews and flaws and things like that.

 

[Edward. S]

I did test the air seat in the dealers yard (lots of lot holes) and it works great, I barely felt the biggest pot hole. I'm sure it will work great for me. I just hope it is a good tractor cause there isn't much info on it on the net in terms of reviews and flaws and things like that.

Hate to break it to you but I have a few problems on my 5085M. Tractor leaks is leaking hydraulic fluid but dealer can fix it via warranty. Speedometer speed display will fluctuate sometimes and sometimes won't even work and shutting off the tractor when left in range

example sometimes the tractor wont stay into C Range turn off and restart, and its not in range anymore.

 

[corey9212]

Hate to break it to you but I have a few problems on my 5085M. Tractor leaks is leaking hydraulic fluid but dealer can fix it via warranty. Speedometer speed display will fluctuate sometimes and sometimes won't even work and shutting off the tractor when left in range

example sometimes the tractor wont stay into C Range turn off and restart, and its not in range anymore.

But isn't the range selector put in that range manually by you? (you have to physically put it there like a manual transmission) cause if so then that would be a mechanical problem with the transmission and should be warranty?

 

[Edward. S]

But isn't the range selector put in that range manually by you? (you have to physically put it there like a manual transmission) cause if so then that would be a mechanical problem with the transmission and should be warranty?

Should be, if it isnt i would be very mad

 

[AKfish]

Should be, if it isnt i would be very mad

Well... that was the first problem I had with my new M - the transmission shift linkage was not adjusted correctly. Could not shift it into Park - at all. So, the tractor would roll after shutting it down.

Not something you want to happen. Could have several calls to your Insurance agent for property damage claims....

AKfish

 

[Edward. S]

It leaks hydraulic fluid so much that I have a puddle in my barn floor. and its under the cab!

I'll rephrase the transmission problem. I'm in C range. Drives fine, and I shut down the tractor. Restart it put it any gear and it wont go. .. have to find a range that will get me going... A... B.... C.... D.... so annoying.

 

[AKfish]

It leaks hydraulic fluid so much that I have a puddle in my barn floor. and its under the cab!

I'll rephrase the transmission problem. I'm in C range. Drives fine, and I shut down the tractor. Restart it put it any gear and it wont go. .. have to find a range that will get me going... A... B.... C.... D.... so annoying.

Ok... that's not a linkage adjustment - not even close.. That's a hyd pump issue. The 2nd warranty problem with my M was a hyd pump failure. Tractor wouldn't move on startup - didn't matter range or gear - take your pick - no go! Same with the FEL and the 3pt. No lift. Nada.

Had to run the fast idle up to 1,500-1,600 rpm for a minute or two. Maybe do that 2-3 times - rev it up - try the tranny and loader, etc. If it wouldn't work; idle back down momentarily and then run it up again - eventually the tractor would move, etc.

Acted just like the hyd pump would lose it's prime and be suckin' air and would require the "rev up-rev down" to finally pull hyd fluid from the sump. Local JD guys were pretty "limp" with any effort to help. JD rep from Kansas City, MO finally stepped in and got me all fixed up! :thumbsup:

I'll never say a bad word about JD's warranty program!

AKfish

 

[corey9212]

I will make notes of those things (just in case) and hope it never happens.

 

[Edward. S]

I will make notes of those things (just in case) and hope it never happens.

Just a reminder, I have a SyncShuttle transmission and not a PowrReverser. Not a fan of the PR but am a fan of the SyncShuttle on the 5 series!

 

[corey9212]

Just a reminder, I have a SyncShuttle transmission and not a PowrReverser. Not a fan of the PR but am a fan of the SyncShuttle on the 5 series!

So besides the gears (32/16, 16/16, ect.) is the names syncShuttle and PowerReverser just names for the transmissions or where they specific features if so what were the differences?

 

[AKfish]

So besides the gears (32/16, 16/16, ect.) is the names syncShuttle and PowerReverser just names for the transmissions or where they specific features if so what were the differences?

PowerReverser tranny does not require the use of a clutch after you have selected the Range and Gear. Orange handle lever to the right of the steering wheel - flip it up and down - forward and reverse; and neutral. You need to use the clutch to change the Gears (1-4); and you have to stop the tractor and use the clutch to shift Range's as well.

With a SyncShuttle you have to use the clutch for everything. Forward - Reverse; Range (stop tractor) and Gear changes. Transmission is synchronized so you can change gears while moving.

PowerReverser is similar to driving a forklift or a construction loader.

SyncShuttle is like driving your Dad's SS Camaro or Chevelle with a 4-speed!

AKfish

 

[corey9212]

PowerReverser tranny does not require the use of a clutch after you have selected the Range and Gear. Orange handle lever to the right of the steering wheel - flip it up and down - forward and reverse; and neutral. You need to use the clutch to change the Gears (1-4); and you have to stop the tractor and use the clutch to shift Range's as well.

With a SyncShuttle you have to use the clutch for everything. Forward - Reverse; Range (stop tractor) and Gear changes. Transmission is synchronized so you can change gears while moving.

PowerReverser is similar to driving a forklift or a construction loader.

SyncShuttle is like driving your Dad's SS Camaro or Chevelle with a 4-speed!

AKfish

Ah, that makes sense thank you for explaining that. I've always loved geared tractors, a lot better than a hydrostatic.

 

[Caledon Hills]

Thank you, I almost did, I found out that I wouldn't get it till mid July and by then the chores would be so far behind it would be overwhelming. But they did have a 5115M that could be delivered in two weeks (they gotta install all the options that I want.) and it was only $4000 more so that's was sweet. My only sacrifice was the transmission is a 16/16 instead of a 32/16 and the tires are the smaller stick tires. Other than that everything is the same. I took it for a test drive today and I didn't want to give it back to them, I wanted to drive it home right there and then (it was so much fun.) the dealer said I will get it very soon.

Congrats on the 5115M Corey, that is a super nice machine.

I've had my 5105M since Sept. 2009 and it has given me nothing but enjoyment and no problems at all.

Regards,

Tom

 

[jenkinsph]

PowerReverser tranny does not require the use of a clutch after you have selected the Range and Gear. Orange handle lever to the right of the steering wheel - flip it up and down - forward and reverse; and neutral. You need to use the clutch to change the Gears (1-4); and you have to stop the tractor and use the clutch to shift Range's as well.

With a SyncShuttle you have to use the clutch for everything. Forward - Reverse; Range (stop tractor) and Gear changes. Transmission is synchronized so you can change gears while moving.

PowerReverser is similar to driving a forklift or a construction loader.

SyncShuttle is like driving your Dad's SS Camaro or Chevelle with a 4-speed!
AKfish

My dad would have found that offensive. LOL.

 

[corey9212]

Congrats on the 5115M Corey, that is a super nice machine.

I've had my 5105M since Sept. 2009 and it has given me nothing but enjoyment and no problems at all.

Regards,

Tom

Thank you, I hope to get lots of enjoyment out of it too. The wait period for it to get prepped is brutal though, lol.