3PH / Backhoe hose loop bothers me.

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Aquamoose

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I have a Branson 3520H with a BH76 backhoe that feeds off the tractor hydraulics.

Problem is when I remove the BH for storage, the hoses on the tractor has to be hooked up to maintain the loop BUT it is quite long and gets in the way when I use other implements and it steals the top link holder to hold the hose up out of the way. I would LOVE to rework the hoses into a stationary two outlet coupler with a bypass valve that loops the flow back into the tractor and when using the BH, the valve gets turned to allow flow to the BH. Is there any valve setup that does this?
 
   / 3PH / Backhoe hose loop bothers me. #2  
You could Tee a quarter turn ball valve in between the two lines right at the quick connects for the loop hose, when the back hoe is plugged in, have the valve closed so it makes the oil go through the back hoe, when you want the back hoe off just open the valve and oil will flow to the rest of the system just as if you had the bypass loop plugged in. Some place like surplus center or other hydraulic supply houses should have the fittings and valve you need.

Surplus Center
 
   / 3PH / Backhoe hose loop bothers me.
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That's a good idea, I'm afraid that it might be too wide when all the pieces are assembled.
 
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You could rearrange the way the hoses connect. Pics from your current setup would help us understand how it is now.
One possible way is to leave the long section of hose on the hoe, by cutting and refitting the section that is currently coming from the tractor to supply the hoe, then installing a new fitting where you make the cut, to allow for the 'return line' of fluid to the hydraulics of the tractor to be shorter. Then the cut section gets attached to the hoe so when using it, you plug it into whatever fitting you have attached at the supply from the tractor. I did this with my FEL hoses that supply my plow and grapple, tree shear, etc.
The new fittings are a compression type that screw into the inner hose liner, (reverse thread) and the 'nut' tightens over the outside of the hyd hose. I have no leaks from this shortening of the hoses. You must keep the fittings and hoses, inside and out free of dirt/debris, and when done right they are not noticeable as different from the crimped on ones from the factory. Readily available, and you could probably buy a bracket so you'd have the hoses mounted neatly in the rear of the tractor, and then just plug and go as needed- depending on your current config, and what needs changing.
 
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Here are the images. In the second image, you can see the two hoses wire tied together which I'm referring to. I'd like to avoid looping the hose and your suggestion still does this. If there isn't any type of bypass, I may cobble some fittings with a ball valve to tidy up the rear and gives me two fixed coupler points.

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Seems a lot of manufacturers make the tractor siDe hoses kinda long. Could you just put shorter hoses on the tractor side and longer hoses on the hoe side?

That's how I did my hoses when I made my bh.
 
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Ok the pics helped a lot, I was thinking that you had two quick connects mounted on the tractor and the hoses were left with the back hoe. I would probably look at doing some thing along the lines of what coyote machine is saying, shorten the two hoses by instilling new ends with quick connects on the rear of the tractor and then a short jumper hose or a u shape fitting with quick connects to jumper the circuit on the tractor with the long hoses attached to the hoe. I'll see if I can dig up some pics someplace.
 
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You could Tee a quarter turn ball valve in between the two lines right at the quick connects for the loop hose, when the back hoe is plugged in, have the valve closed so it makes the oil go through the back hoe, when you want the back hoe off just open the valve and oil will flow to the rest of the system just as if you had the bypass loop plugged in. Some place like surplus center or other hydraulic supply houses should have the fittings and valve you need.

Surplus Center

exactly what i was thinking. bypass across right behind the couplers with a valve..
 
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Something like this could be done on the tractor side, then a short jumper, a valve teed in between the to lines right behind the quick connects , that way you have nothing to keep up with to jumper it that way. Bunch of ways to do it , just have to decide which way you like and can do.
 

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Aquamoose
I just run my backhoe off the quick disconncts. I changed the backhoe to have two mle ends. The two female ends that were left I connected together to plug the hose ends into for storage on the hoe. You just keep that pair of connects open to power the hoe. My tractor is a 20 series but I would think that it would work the same.
 

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