3-pt vs sub-frame mounted backhoe

[ronjhall]

Before I purchased my B4690 3PH backhoe I checked out the Woods 7500. The only concern I had was MMM interference. I thought the sub frame made a good skid plate for underside of the tractor. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

 

[tractorman]

Listen to these guys, the subframe mounted backhoe is a much better solution for you. We were selling the Woods 7500's with their 52999 subframe kit, it made for an excellent match. Woods has since come out with a new subframe kit to replace the 52999 which I do not like. it sticks out very far behind the tractor, takes alot of weight off the front end & reduces ground clearance. We have switched to the Bradco 3375 hoe with their subframe mounting kit. Awesome ground clearance and easy to get on and off. Good Luck with your decision

 

[rockyridgefarm]

Well, I got neither. On my Deere, it is frame mounted. You remove the three point. but the frame structure doesn't affect ground clearance, or mmm operation. It really does go on and off in a flash. I doubt anyone would change color to get it, but for someone deciding, it'd be worth a look.

 

[cowboydoc]

I agree with you Mike. I really like the 48 backhoe for my 4600 too.

 

[chrisjbell]

Well, after reading the thread I'd agree with the general consensus - for that size of a tractor you want a subframe.

I have a Woods hoe (with subframe) on a B7300 (smaller tractor than yours, but same theory). The hoe generates a heck of a lot of downforce and can easily lift the rear of the tractor off the ground. Done smoothly, it isn't too bad, but every now and then something gives (usually the operator fails to be smoooth /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif). The tractor, when it drops fast, sure does get rough in the seat /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif!

Without the subframe, my tractor would look like a pretzel /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif.

It doesn't affect ground clearance much. I sank my tractor to the frame in a bog (BH off) and the bracket for the subframe was clear, even though the tractor was sitting on the axles and frame /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif.

I do beleive that the bracket would interfere with an MMM, but I don't have one so could be wrong.

 

[John_Mc]

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FWIW... stump removal is one of the tougher jobs you'll do with a backhoe (unless you're just working on really small stumps). I'd recommend the subframe.

Woods has a new subframe style out for their Backhoes. They call it their "4 point hitch". Makes putting it on and off a real breeze, and you do not lose the ground clearance that you do with some subframes. It's available now for some Kubota model tractors (not yet for NH class II CUTs /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif)

John Mc

 

[PineRidge]

John,
When I was getting estimates for a new TC40D the New Holland dealers wouldn't talk to me about a 3-point backhoe period. I am convinced that it went deeper than just price considerations. They were concerned about my bringing the tractor back for service with a twisted or broken case. Even though they offered frame mounted backhoes cheaper than the NH such as the Bradco line I decided to bite the bullet and go with the New Holland backhoe for peace of mind. Now the dealer has the FEL, BH, pallet forks, canopy, wheel weights, and rear weights but we are patiently awaiting the tractor itself. Man I'm not getting much sleep nights, know what I mean? /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

 

[pekabu]

Unfortunatly I do. My dealer had the machine, but couldn't find the BH anywhere. Waited about a month and a half. Came through though. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif