why when i start on tractors in 1985 7year old mowing grass grear shift there then at 11 a case 245 21hp fel 4x4 was mine plowed tilled drug loggs i never once got tried of shifing thourg the gear and i still dont like auto tractor put less par to pto they make auto tranny tractor so ant meat head can get on them and go that why you hear of plp rolling tractors if we had straight gear not to many would get on them and stay on them