2.7EB vs 3.5EB?

[dodge man]

I agree, total idiot. Like mentioned the hitch, which is the same on most of the newer Fords is rated at 500 lbs tongue weight without a WD hitch. He has a solid draw bar so he is going by that rating.

 

[wawajake]

So let me get this right WilliamBos ....the thread is about Ford Ecobousts , but you constantly are inserting about unsubstantiated AFM GM engine problems , and you say I am the one misdirecting the thread. Careful your inconsequential bias is showing William ! ..... but I am seeing the pattern .

 

[Garandman]

I thought GM remedied the AFM problems in 2014? Hope so, we just bought a 2016 Tahoe...

 

[s219]

My 2014 Sierra with the 5.3L / AFM hasn't used a drop of oil in 3+ years. In fact the whole truck has been flawless except for the OEM battery which died just before the basic 3/36 warranty was up (and was replaced at no cost to me). I'll wait until about 6 years and lots more miles before I make a final conclusion, but so far it's been a great truck.

 

[wawajake]

My 2014 Sierra with the 5.3L / AFM hasn't used a drop of oil in 3+ years. In fact the whole truck has been flawless except for the OEM battery which died just before the basic 3/36 warranty was up (and was replaced at no cost to me). I'll wait until about 6 years and lots more miles before I make a final conclusion, but so far it's been a great truck.

that's my experience too with mine S219

 

[dodge man]

You read the Ford F15p forums they list some problems with the 2.7. High oil usage as I recall. 5.0 with knocks. 3.5 EcoBoost blowing up. Anybody that makes a lot of vehicles is going to have a few problems.

 

[coobie]

On a straight, flat road, for 23 seconds?

Hereç—´ a guy who towed 11,700 and got called out, so he responded in detail.

Not calling anyone out,just stated the facts.To many folks pi$$ing around on there cell phones when they should be DRIVING.Ever had one of your co-workers killed by one of these folks, I have.Not much fun going to funerals that could have been avoided.

 

[Garandman]

Not condoning texting, I ride motorcycles and the texters are bad or worse than drunks. I use my phone in the car, listen to the radio, adjust the AC etc so I would be a hypocrite.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

On a straight, flat road, for 23 seconds?

Here痴 a guy who towed 11,700 and got called out, so he responded in detail.

I don't get it, either. My F150 weights 6,200 pounds and is longer than Kapper's truck. My truck is rated to tow 11K. Its brakes are massive for a half-ton (and i just replaced them at 95,000 miles). Ford's F150s tow very well with their anti sway set up, auto braking on hills, and slowing the steering down when in tow-haul mode.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

You read the Ford F15p forums they list some problems with the 2.7. High oil usage as I recall. 5.0 with knocks. 3.5 EcoBoost blowing up. Anybody that makes a lot of vehicles is going to have a few problems.

The 3.5L issue of blowing up is hydrolock. Solved by drilling a 1/16" weep hole in the bottom of the intercooler to blow the water vapor out. Ford, due to EPA issues, cannot drill a weep hole and was forced to make the intercooler less efficient. The 2.7L designed its way around the issue as well as an issue that if the gasket on the fuel pump failed can also cause hydrolock. The 2017 3.5L redesign also solved the potential fuel pump problem as well.

 

[Paystar]

Exactly the reason I would never buy used.....people drilling holes in a system that is designed to keep boost pressure.

Apparently Ford has made the proper changes to remedy this, and not by drilling holes in a pressurized system.

 

[WilliamBos]

So let me get this right WilliamBos ....the thread is about Ford Ecobousts , but you constantly are inserting about unsubstantiated AFM GM engine problems , and you say I am the one misdirecting the thread. Careful your inconsequential bias is showing William ! ..... but I am seeing the pattern .

Yes, because the gm i own will be my last one...msny friends out of pocket on gm afm engines with no help from gm. swapping to Ford.

I also refuse to buy a truck that is built in Mexico - and to support a company that bails and moves there after receiving bail out money from us.

Check gm forums, loads of afm issues.

 

[WilliamBos]

You read the Ford F15p forums they list some problems with the 2.7. High oil usage as I recall. 5.0 with knocks. 3.5 EcoBoost blowing up. Anybody that makes a lot of vehicles is going to have a few problems.

The 2.7 eb oil use was found to be related to a 6 month run of bad cylinder heads, ford either did top end under warranty or new engine. The 3.5 had timing chain stretch issues, the 2018 engines have addressed all those issues.

Ford added dual injection for 2018 - 2 injectors per cylinder (1 port and 1 direct) which will eliminate the intake valve carbon issues that direct injection is known for.

The 5.0 Coyote was multiport up to 2018, now dual injected.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Exactly the reason I would never buy used.....people drilling holes in a system that is designed to keep boost pressure.

Apparently Ford has made the proper changes to remedy this, and not by drilling holes in a pressurized system.

Every turbo system with an intercooler had a weep hole before the EPA shut that best-practice down. Every aftermarket intercooler has a weep hole. The hole exists because the air goes through a pressure drop causing moisture to condense out of the air in the intercooler. Rather than puddling up waiting to be gulped down and cause at best, a mis-fire, and at worst, a hydro-locked piston and a rod through the block, condensed water and crankcase fluids are then blown out of the weep hole.

Here is a guy who took my advice to drill a weep hole into his intercooler.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Here is another guy who acted on my now well-disseminated advice to drill a weep hole.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Here is my video showing that the weep hole is always under some pressure and there is no danger of ingesting water.

I explained in the video's description:

Ford cannot just drill a 1/16" weep hole at the bottom of their intercoolers to solve the on-going water-vapor misfire problem, but you can.

The Result: at idle there is insufficient volume to develop any notable pressure. However, the big idea is if a 1/16" weep hole drilled at the lower left front corner of the intercooler to solve the misfire issue ever draws vacuum, and it does not. As a result, I wouldn't worry about a weep hole at the bottom of the intercooler unless one is crossing a flooded road or doing water crossings. In those conditions, a nipple should be installed, and a breather line popped on that vents at a higher place.

 

[Farmer495]

I went to drill mine when I bought the truck and found it was already done

 

[Paystar]

Well, I know nothing about auto's (don't pay attention to anything that doesn't make me money)....but on our class 8 trucks the last thing you want is a boost leak.


And like Will said.....my friend had severe oil use issues with his 2.7 Eco-Boost and Ford put a new motor in it. But then he traded it for an F250, LOL.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

I went to drill mine when I bought the truck and found it was already done

I started telling people about the weep hole back in April of 2012 and Engineer Mike, made the idea internet-famous.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Well, I know nothing about auto's (don't pay attention to anything that doesn't make me money)....but on our class 8 trucks the last thing you want is a boost leak.


And like Will said.....my friend had severe oil use issues with his 2.7 Eco-Boost and Ford put a new motor in it. But then he traded it for an F250, LOL.

Turbos have gate valves to blow off excess pressure. Weep holes are on every high performance turbo application because of the pressure drop intercoolers cause on the intake side. The EPA shut dow the best practice of OEMs providing a weep hole. Here is a Caddy forum discussing the practice. Intercooler Weep Hole

Here is the 2017 Raptor guys just discovering the fix for their woes is, you got it, a 1/16" weep hole. http://www.fordraptorforum.com/f261/just-fixed-full-race-intercooler-my-raptor-2017-a-53954/

Here is a volvo loosing power because of a lack of efficiency from their intercooler loading up with condensation and the solution again is, you got it, a weep hole. 85 T5 3Hp - Loss Of Power At High Boost (Rumbling Hesitation) - FWD/AWD 1998 and Prior - Volvospeed Forums