100+ hp tractor suggestions

[DmansPadge]

Ok, now things have gotten real difficult. There are tons of tractors out there in the 100+ pto hp in 2wd. I think it would be best to stay with a 6 cyl. and should have ROPS or cab. Is there some place to get specs on tractors such as hp, transmission features, and cyl? What is the difference between a power shift and quadrange?

There are two sites that I know of that have tractor specs. One is Tractordata.com and the other is Tiscoparts.com (used to also be named tractortips.com)

 

[dgl24087]

Ok, now things have gotten real difficult. There are tons of tractors out there in the 100+ pto hp in 2wd. I think it would be best to stay with a 6 cyl. and should have ROPS or cab. Is there some place to get specs on tractors such as hp, transmission features, and cyl? What is the difference between a power shift and quadrange?

TractorData.com - information on all makes and models of tractors is a good, but not perfect source to research different tractor models. Another member has posted a good explanation of the different types of transmissions, can't remember who or what forum it's in though. I think it is JerryG.

 

[flusher]

Ok, now things have gotten real difficult. There are tons of tractors out there in the 100+ pto hp in 2wd. I think it would be best to stay with a 6 cyl. and should have ROPS or cab. Is there some place to get specs on tractors such as hp, transmission features, and cyl? What is the difference between a power shift and quadrange?

Check

http://www.tractorsmart.com/main/Tractor Transmission Types.htm

for some good info on tractor transmissions.

Here's a link to a TBN thread that will help answer your questions:

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/owning-operating/96068-tractor-shifting.html

Like you I want a larger tractor. I have a 2005 21 hp (engine) Kubota B7510HST with the LA302 FEL (4-ft wide bucket) and a 1966 45 hp engine MF-135 diesel. Am presently looking for a 70-hp JD. Have my eye on the 3020. Lotsa fun trying to find the right one and making a deal.

 

[Slippy]

Found a 1970 JD 5020, no 3pt, 133ptohp, cab no air/heat, std shift 8forward 4 reverse, 1000rmp only, new rubber, clean, no smoke, runs good, 2wd w/ diff lock, asking $9900.00. Any thoughts about this machine?

 

[Robert_in_NY]

If you are a collector then grab it. If you want to use it then walk away. The 5020 is a great tractor but without the 3pt and no AC it will limit your usefulness. Even taking the doors off the cab in the summer the cab will still be very hot. And if you ever want to use anything that requires a 3pt you will not be able to unless you buy another tractor. Keep looking as there are a lot out there to choose from.

 

[rback33]

I agree with Robert. No AC for the cab and bareback are deal breakers for me. Great tractor though. Would be a nice unit for your needs.

 

[flusher]

Found a 1970 JD 5020, no 3pt, 133ptohp, cab no air/heat, std shift 8forward 4 reverse, 1000rmp only, new rubber, clean, no smoke, runs good, 2wd w/ diff lock, asking $9900.00. Any thoughts about this machine?

Should sell for $7000-$8000.

Suggest you invest $15 and buy the 2007 edition of The Official Tractor Blue Book from Amazon.com. It's invaluable if you're looking to buy used iron.

 

[Slippy]

Ok, good points and I was thinking the same thing. Kinda getting 1/2 the baby at full price. Will keep looking. Thank you! And, thanks to those for the info on trnasmissions. I have read it, and now have at least some idea of what I am looking at. In my mind, when considering a tractor this old, the simpler the transmission the better due to possible repair costs. I have also asked all the dealers I have spoken with and they all seem to lean toward JD as far as parts availability and service. Did find an international 1066 but I think they want too much for it, $13,900, and it looks kinda rough.

 

[cowboydoc]

If you are looking on the cheaper side for excellent older tractors look at a Deere 4430 or 4440. Readily available parts, easy tractors to work on, great resale value, and VERY reliable tractors. Usually a good one with 5-10k hours can be found less than $15k. We just sold one in excellent condition, fresh overhaul at 8k hours, new air conditioning unit, cab was in excellent shape, and hydraulics were also recently overhauled for $14,500. For what you want to do that tractor would have lasted you 20 years.

For Batwing mowers the Deere mowers are nice but for less $ look at the Landpride. You can usually find them at substantial discounts that are only a couple years old and lots of life left. Just be careful on the used ones to really look at the gearboxes, those can be really spendy to rebuild.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

If you are a collector then grab it. If you want to use it then walk away. The 5020 is a great tractor but without the 3pt and no AC it will limit your usefulness. Even taking the doors off the cab in the summer the cab will still be very hot. And if you ever want to use anything that requires a 3pt you will not be able to unless you buy another tractor. Keep looking as there are a lot out there to choose from.

5020's are BIG, heavy, loud, fuel hogging, clumsy monsters. They were ok back in their day as heavy tillage tractors is wide open country, but for a bush hogging tractor, I'd think they would be near the BOTTOM of the list. Later model 5020's were 141 hp, but their weight per hp ratio wasn't much to brag about. The 5020 was 531 cu. in. When the 30 series was introduced in 1973, the 5020 was up-gunned to 175hp and re-badged as the 6030. Most of them would actually dyno at well over 225hp. That overcame the weight to hp ratio issues, but they were still loud lumbering giants. Many were re-fit with 619 cu. in engines when it was time to overhaul. They often dynoed at well over 275 hp. That much power was hard to harness with a 2wd, even with ballasted weights in excess of 20,000lbs. In 1978, Deere introduced the 4840 to replace the 6030. It was "only" a true 180 hp, but had the state of the art (in those days) SoundGaurd cab. The 4840 had the new 466 cu. in. engine that was the staple of the Deere big ag tractor line for years.

 

[mlauk]

No 3 point and 1000 rpm pto is a good reason not to get the 5020. Along with what cowboydoc recommended, I would look at the 4230 and 4240 which are similar to the 4430 and 4440, but around 25 fewer horses (no turbo). They also have 540/1000 rpm pto. I would get the quad range.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

There are a couple IH cab tractors in Ohio on Ebay right now. The 1066 is being sold by a guy I have dealt with before and will be up front and honest with you about the tractor. He is a great guy to deal with. The 1086 I do not know the seller but there is plenty of time left if you are interested.

I know a lot of people are scared to buy tractors on Ebay but if they are somewhat close to you then check them out as not everyone on Ebay is a crook and there are some great deals with regards to tractors and equipment on Ebay.

eBay: International 1086 Tractor International IH Farmall (item 330121636718 end time May-25-07 13:18:00 PDT)

eBay: International #1066 With Factory Cab Runs Great LOOK!!! (item 300111268626 end time May-20-07 18:18:00 PDT)

Just noticed the 1066 doesn't have AC but it is a nice looking tractor still.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

There are a couple IH cab tractors in Ohio on Ebay right now. The 1066 is being sold by a guy I have dealt with before and will be up front and honest with you about the tractor. He is a great guy to deal with. The 1086 I do not know the seller but there is plenty of time left if you are interested.

I know a lot of people are scared to buy tractors on Ebay but if they are somewhat close to you then check them out as not everyone on Ebay is a crook and there are some great deals with regards to tractors and equipment on Ebay.

eBay: International 1086 Tractor International IH Farmall (item 330121636718 end time May-25-07 13:18:00 PDT)

eBay: International #1066 With Factory Cab Runs Great LOOK!!! (item 300111268626 end time May-20-07 18:18:00 PDT)

Just noticed the 1066 doesn't have AC but it is a nice looking tractor still.

Seller on the 1086 is very much an honest and reliable person.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

I would love to add that 1086 to my barn but having just bought the neighbors farm money is a tad bit tight right now

The 66 and 86 series Internationals usually sell cheap on Ebay.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

I would love to add that 1086 to my barn but having just bought the neighbors farm money is a tad bit tight right now

The 66 and 86 series Internationals usually sell cheap on Ebay.

66 and 86 series tractors sell for pennies on the dollar here compared to "green" of comparable size.

86 series sells cheaper than 66 series here too. That tends to boggle my mind. The only explaination I can get from anyone is the bad karma left when IH shut down the Louisville foundry, about the time the 86 series was the newest IH in the dealers showroom. The Lou. Ky plant was one of the worst as far as union troubles leading up to the demise of the old IH. But then again, Louisville has alway had a bad rep with union/company relations. GE has a big plant here that's slowly sneaking down Mexico way. Colgate Palmolive has a plant in Jeffersonville Indiana (right across the Ohio River from Louisville) It closes the doors for good in less than a year.

All that doesn't mean beans to me when I go tractor shopping though.

I WANT A 1066!

 

[Turbys_1700]

Those 1066's are in great demand here in the NC piedmont too. IMHO probably the best older HP for the money on the market.

 

[Slippy]

I emailed the seller of the 1066, have not heard back, but looks like it might have already been sold. That would have been perfect if in good condition. Will post follow-up when I learn more.

Have spoken with seller of 1086, waiting to hear back from someone with more info though. Starting bit is $12,500. Is that high? 4500 hrs, 1979...that seems high, am I wrong?

 

[Slippy]

1066 was sold. Oh well, I will keep looking and a special thanks to Robert in NY for the info.

 

[dgl24087]

I emailed the seller of the 1066, have not heard back, but looks like it might have already been sold. That would have been perfect if in good condition. Will post follow-up when I learn more.

Have spoken with seller of 1086, waiting to hear back from someone with more info though. Starting bit is $12,500. Is that high? 4500 hrs, 1979...that seems high, am I wrong?

Looking on Used Tractors at TractorHouse.com: John Deere Tractors, used farm tractors and farm equipment, Case IH, New Holland, Agco, Caterpillar., that seems to be in range, most there are $14,000 and up.

 

[art]

The reason of the preference in the older model is it is bare bones! The 86 series used a differnent shift that some didn't like as well as the old model. The cab on the 86 series offered air which was a good improvement as well as the noise level. Any with a turbo are quieter then the non-turbo models with or without a muffler.