I asked ChatGPT, and after having to correct it once (it plugged John Deere in instead of Deutz, saying it assumed I meant Deere)
Great — switching the Deere out for the Deutz-Fahr 4065E changes some of the tradeoffs. Let’s redo the comparison: Kioti NS6010 vs Massey MF-2855M vs Deutz-Fahr 4065E in hilly terrain, dirt work, general ag, hay operations, and relative pricing.
I’ll begin with the Deutz 4065E specs, then do side-by-side comparisons, then conclusions.
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Key specs of Deutz-Fahr 4065E
Here are relevant specs of the Deutz-Fahr 4065E as known from sources:
Parameter Value / Note
Engine / Horsepower ~ 61.2 hp (45.6 kW) rated
Transmission 12 × 12 synchro shuttle with creep option (shuttle shift as standard)
Hydraulics (flow) Open center system, ~11.1 gpm (42.0 L/min)
Rear 3-pt lift ~ 5,512 lb (~2,500 kg) lift capacity
Weight (4WD open) ~ 6,173 lb (2,800 kg)
PTO Independent rear PTO, 540 / 540E
Other features Two rear remotes standard, mechanical self-leveling front loader support, radial tires standard, standard with wheel weights
Market pricing Listings of new/used 4065E open-station / loader combos range ~$33,500 to ~$46,000
So the 4065E sits in the ~60 hp class, midweight, with a modest hydraulic flow for this class.
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Side-by-side: Kioti NS6010, Massey 2855M, Deutz 4065E
I’ll compare in each use case domain: hilly terrain, dirt/loader work, general ag, hay, and also price/overall.
Hilly terrain / slopes / traction & stability
Deutz 4065E
With 4WD and a decent weight (6,173 lb for open 4WD) the Deutz has a good base for traction on inclines.
The shuttle transmission helps with forward/reverse handling on slopes.
The lift capacity is high, which can help when pulling loads that shift weight (like trailers or implements) uphill.
But its hydraulic flow is moderate, so heavy simultaneous hydraulic demands on slopes may strain it.
Kioti NS6010
Lighter than Deutz (Kioti open models weigh less) and lower hydraulic and lift specs, so on steep terrain you’ll want more ballast and high-traction tires to avoid slipping or instability.
The hydrostatic (HST) option on Kioti is a plus for fine control on slopes.
For steady uphill grades under load, the lower weight is a disadvantage.
Massey 2855M
Middle ground: decent weight and decent lift, good for general slopes, but less horsepower than Deutz.
Its shuttle transmission helps; the lower hydraulic flow is a limitation when doing multiple hydraulic tasks under load on slick or steep slopes.
Verdict (hills):
Deutz has the edge among the three in balancing weight, horsepower, and lift for hilly terrain, though you’d still want good ballast/tires. Kioti is workable if you reinforce traction; Massey is serviceable but less powerful.
Dirt / loader / grading / pushing
Deutz 4065E
The 11.1 gpm hydraulic flow is modest for continuous loader work, so heavy or repeated operations may slow as the pump works near capacity.
But its higher lift capacity and solid weight give it decent stability under loader loads.
The shuttle works well for loader cycles (frequent forward/reverse).
It might lag behind in speed of cycles compared to a higher-flow tractor.
Kioti NS6010
With about 16.5 gpm (in certain models) and good loader option, Kioti often outperforms in hydraulic responsiveness and speed of loader cycles.
Its lighter weight can be a drawback under very heavy loader loads unless you add ballast, but for many “normal” loader + grading tasks, it will hold up well.
The hydrostatic version is particularly smooth for dirt work in operator usability.
Massey 2855M
At ~12.6 gpm implement flow, it's decent for general loader tasks, but going after heavy loads or fast cycles will show its hydraulic limit.
Its lift capacity (~3,086 lb) is solid for many loader tasks.
Verdict (dirt work):
Kioti often gives you more “feel” and speed in loader tasks; Deutz is better for heavier lifts and stability; Massey is good but will start showing its limits in heavier duty loader cycles.
General agriculture / implements / towing / PTO use
Deutz 4065E
Strong 3-pt lift gives flexibility with heavier implements.
Decent PTO capability allows use of many farm implements.
Its weight helps when towing or lugging heavy loads.
Transmission versatility helps with different work speeds.
Kioti NS6010
Good for many farm implements, though some heavier implements may push its limits.
The 3-point lift (~2,932 lb in some models) is lower than Deutz’s ~5,500 lbs spec; but for utility implements (harrows, planters, etc.) it’s enough.
Easier control (especially with HST) helps with precise operations.
Massey 2855M
A strong middle ground: good lift, decent hydraulics, solid for most farm implements in a small/medium farm setting.
Often simpler and robust in design—less overkill for lighter use.
Verdict (general ag):
Deutz gives you margin and capability for heavier implements; Kioti is sufficient and user-friendly; Massey is solid and often more cost efficient.
Hay operations (balers, rake, bale handling)
Deutz 4065E
High lift lets you handle large bales, bale spears, or forage wagons well.
Under field conditions, the extra stability is an asset.
But again, hydraulic flow could be a bottleneck for simultaneously controlling attachments (especially with bigger balers or conveyors).
Kioti NS6010
Very good choice for typical hay operations (round balers, bale handling) especially on small to mid acreage.
For heavy commercial baling or high throughput, Deutz will give you more capability overhead.
Massey 2855M
Good for standard hay operations; less hydraulic margin, but acceptable for most farm balers and hay handling gear.
Verdict (hay):
In higher volume hay work, Deutz is safer; for moderate hay operations, Kioti or Massey are fine and efficient.
Price / package / value
Here’s how things stack in pricing (open station, 4WD, with loader, roughly):
Kioti NS6010
– Base MSRP ~ $39,226 for the tractor alone (no attachments)
– A cab + loader package on Kioti is listed at ~$50,594 in one dealership example.
– So a 4WD open + loader might fall somewhere in ~$45,000–$60,000 depending on options/taxes.
Massey MF-2855M
– A loader package (open station) is listed at about $45,195 in one deal.
– So you can expect in that ballpark, maybe ~$40k–$55k depending on options.
Deutz-Fahr 4065E
– Used/new listings for 4065E loader combos run from ~$33,500 up to ~$46,250.
– Because Deutz is less common in many U.S. dealer networks, package premiums or discounts may widen.
– In essence, its pricing is quite competitive with Massey and Kioti in many cases.
So in many real deals, you may find all three in overlapping ranges—your decision will come down to capability, service, parts, and performance under your particular load.
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Revised conclusion / recommendation (with Deutz in the mix)
For hilly terrain, Deutz 4065E is likely the best bet of the three, due to its better weight plus horsepower and lift margin.
For loader / dirt work, Kioti NS6010 often gives better hydraulic responsiveness and smoother control for typical loader use; Deutz has more raw lift advantage, Massey is serviceable but more constrained hydraulically.
For general ag & implements, Deutz gives you more headroom; Kioti is highly capable and smoother to operate; Massey is very efficient for “normal” farm use.
For hay operations, Deutz again gives a safety margin (heft, lift) especially under heavy usage; Kioti and Massey are solid for moderate hay workloads.
Price-wise, Deutz tends to be competitive, sometimes a bargain in certain listings, though availability and dealer support are critical.
If you like, I can pull local (your region) dealer package quotes for these three models (or their equivalents) to see what you would pay in your area. Do you want me to find those local numbers?
