Grease - is there no better way? Can we talk about this?

[4570Man]

Of course no one sits in one spot and moves the loader up and down and curling and dumping for 10 hours straight. I look at it that if I have the loader on and am using it off and on for 10 hours it needs greased.

With an excavator you pretty much are doing exactly that. I like to grease the bucket pin every 3-4 hours and the rest of the machine every other time I grease the bucket.

 

[tradosaurus]

Recommended service schedule for pedal and brake linkage on tractor and zero turn is 100 hours or annual. Tractor trunion and mower spindles are spec'd for 50 hours or twice annual. FEL pins are also spec'd at 50 hours, which is about 2x per year for me.

I don't put that many hours on my tractor. 30 hrs/yr. I have greased once a year and there is plenty of grease already in the areas needing grease.
I could probably go every 2 years.
I don't understand those greasing every 10 hrs.

 

[dodge man]

I don't put that many hours on my tractor. 30 hrs/yr. I have greased once a year and there is plenty of grease already in the areas needing grease.
I could probably go every 2 years.
I don't understand those greasing every 10 hrs.

You’re joking right? You use your tractor 30 hours a year so everyone should grease theirs once a year? You realize some people put 30 hours on their machine in 2 or 3 days, working in dirt, dust, mud and sand. 10 hours is not excessive.

 

[Fixastuff]

You’re joking right? You use your tractor 30 hours a year so everyone should grease theirs once a year? You realize some people put 30 hours on their machine in 2 or 3 days, working in dirt, dust, mud and sand. 10 hours is not excessive.

When you’re not fighting gravity it’s much easier on the loader pins.

 

[tradosaurus]

You’re joking right? You use your tractor 30 hours a year so everyone should grease theirs once a year? You realize some people put 30 hours on their machine in 2 or 3 days, working in dirt, dust, mud and sand. 10 hours is not excessive.

Not joking chief.
My Kubota maintenance schedule says to grease every 50 hrs so actually i'm ahead of schedule!

 

[dodge man]

You sure it says every 50 hours? I owned a smaller Kubota and it said 10 hours but of course I don’t have your maintenance schedule in front of me.

 

[tradosaurus]

You sure it says every 50 hours? I owned a smaller Kubota and it said 10 hours but of course I don’t have your maintenance schedule in front of me.

Kubota tractor manual

 

[dodge man]

The 50 hours is for fittings on the tractor, 10 hours is for the loader. Look in the separate loader manual.

 

[mjonesnh]

Just checked my New Holland manual. Calls out for tractor fittings every 50 hours. Grease tractor once a year which is 30-35hrs./yr. Loader gets greased every 8-10 hours of use.

 

[4570Man]

Not joking chief.
My Kubota maintenance schedule says to grease every 50 hrs so actually i'm ahead of schedule!

I don’t think any manual is calling for grease on the loader pins every 50 hours of actual use.

 

[tradosaurus]

So I guess we need to be more specific. Bucket and loader arms are not considered part of the tractor.

 

[WinterDeere]

I don’t think any manual is calling for grease on the loader pins every 50 hours of actual use.

My memory and personal records indicate my Deere 855 manual must have specified a 50 hours schedule for greasing the loader, but I don't have the manual handy to reference anymore (machine sold), and it's possible one of two things happened:

1. Manual was referring to greasing the rest of the zerks on the tractor, but not the loader. I can't even remember if Deere made a separate service manual for their loaders way back in 1986, but I think probably not.

2. Deere assumes that 50 hours on the machine is almost certainly less than 10 hours of loader uppy / downy action.

I did just run out to the barn and pull the manuals for the 3033R tractor and 320R loader, to check their maintenance schedules. The 3033R specifies front axle trunions at 50 hours, and "everything else" at 100 hours. But 320R manual does indeed say 10 hours.

To me, it's all the same. Each 50 hours on the tractor likely yields less than 10 hours of actual loader articulation, based on my usage.

 

[WinterDeere]

Oh, I do have a question for you folks greasing the loader damn near every time you climb on and off the tractor: How are you cleaning those hateful little Zerks that recessed into the pin ends?

All of my old loaders were so easy to grease, right thru the side of the cross tube at each cylinder end. Easy-peasy, nice exposed Zerk you can easily wipe clean with a paper towel before attaching the grease gun.

Then they went to these stupid fittings recessed into the ends of the pin, with are a total mother f'er to clean, mine are always cakes with chainsaw wood chips (like big "dust", for those of you with dull saws ) from running saws near my tractor. Getting a paper towel, screwdriver, anything in there to get the Zerk clean before attaching the grease gun is like an exercise in frustration, especially when the old way was so much easier and more convenient.

I can do an oil and filter change on a tractor in probably 10 - 15 minutes, but it probably takes me close to double that time to grease it, largely because of this stupid new loader pin design.

 

[dodge man]

It’s more of a car detailing thing but they make these Q tips of different sizes. I have a bag of different sized ones, small to giant. I don’t need them for my loader pins as I can get rag in there.

I’ve been shuttling loaders full of gravel and dumping them over a hill side near my house, a one way trip is about 800 feet. So I’m using the loader constantly. I rarely sit on my tractor 8 hours in a day but maybe 3 or 4 hours. On the third day I realized it was time to grease it. Like most people though I’m not usually using the loader constantly so you just have to guess when it’s time.

 

[WinterDeere]

Maybe I'll have to start keeping boxes of Q-tips in the barn, for this. I prefer the exposed zerks that I can just give a quick wipe with the paper towel, but after some bitching and moaning about it, I can adapt.

Even in that project, if drive between scoop and dump is 800 feet, the actual duty cycle on the loader versus tractor hours can't be too terribly high.

 

[pmsmechanic]

Oh, I do have a question for you folks greasing the loader damn near every time you climb on and off the tractor: How are you cleaning those hateful little Zerks that recessed into the pin ends?

All of my old loaders were so easy to grease, right thru the side of the cross tube at each cylinder end. Easy-peasy, nice exposed Zerk you can easily wipe clean with a paper towel before attaching the grease gun.

Then they went to these stupid fittings recessed into the ends of the pin, with are a total mother f'er to clean, mine are always cakes with chainsaw wood chips (like big "dust", for those of you with dull saws ) from running saws near my tractor. Getting a paper towel, screwdriver, anything in there to get the Zerk clean before attaching the grease gun is like an exercise in frustration, especially when the old way was so much easier and more convenient.

I can do an oil and filter change on a tractor in probably 10 - 15 minutes, but it probably takes me close to double that time to grease it, largely because of this stupid new loader pin design.

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A grease fitting adapter would probably get it out far enough for you.

 

[4570Man]

Oh, I do have a question for you folks greasing the loader damn near every time you climb on and off the tractor: How are you cleaning those hateful little Zerks that recessed into the pin ends?

All of my old loaders were so easy to grease, right thru the side of the cross tube at each cylinder end. Easy-peasy, nice exposed Zerk you can easily wipe clean with a paper towel before attaching the grease gun.

Then they went to these stupid fittings recessed into the ends of the pin, with are a total mother f'er to clean, mine are always cakes with chainsaw wood chips (like big "dust", for those of you with dull saws ) from running saws near my tractor. Getting a paper towel, screwdriver, anything in there to get the Zerk clean before attaching the grease gun is like an exercise in frustration, especially when the old way was so much easier and more convenient.

I can do an oil and filter change on a tractor in probably 10 - 15 minutes, but it probably takes me close to double that time to grease it, largely because of this stupid new loader pin design.

I use a screwdriver to scrap out enough dirt that I can get the nozzle seated in place and call it good. I don’t bother cleaning them to perfection.

 

[Eagle1]

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A grease fitting adapter would probably get it out far enough for you.

I would promptly knock it off using the loader or backhoe next to something or in dirt/rock. Seems that every exposed grease fitting is broken quickly.

 

[wagne223]

The two items on my tractor that are the most grease sensitive are the lower loader bucket pins and the rotary cutter tail wheel.

Moving a lot of dirt one day and the bolt that holds the lower bucket pins in place sheared off. Seems under load and lack of grease created a rotational torque on those pins that was enough to shear off those small retaining bolts.

Rotary cutter tail wheel does not track property and will actually start to plow if it is not greased properly.

Those two spots get greased prior to any days work. Rest of the loader greased after 5 days of light duty or every day of heavy duty.

Rest of the machine gets greased when I change the oil.

I wear disposable latex gloves , use a manual pistol grip grease gun, and wipe off the excess.

Grease does not have to be messy!

 

[4570Man]

Oh, I do have a question for you folks greasing the loader damn near every time you climb on and off the tractor: How are you cleaning those hateful little Zerks that recessed into the pin ends?

All of my old loaders were so easy to grease, right thru the side of the cross tube at each cylinder end. Easy-peasy, nice exposed Zerk you can easily wipe clean with a paper towel before attaching the grease gun.

Then they went to these stupid fittings recessed into the ends of the pin, with are a total mother f'er to clean, mine are always cakes with chainsaw wood chips (like big "dust", for those of you with dull saws ) from running saws near my tractor. Getting a paper towel, screwdriver, anything in there to get the Zerk clean before attaching the grease gun is like an exercise in frustration, especially when the old way was so much easier and more convenient.

I can do an oil and filter change on a tractor in probably 10 - 15 minutes, but it probably takes me close to double that time to grease it, largely because of this stupid new loader pin design.

I’m not seeing it as being that hard. The skid steer has no shortage of pins to grease and they’re every one recessed. If they weren’t they would be broke off the first day. It takes me maybe 5 minutes to grease the machine.