Tractors and (upcoming) tariffs?

[jyoutz]

You ARE right that it is “less expensive to keep people healthy than to make them healthy after they get sick”
Have you considered:

1. Most people get sick because they eat unhealthy diets, smoke, drink, and do drugs? I bet that accounts for the vast majority of diabetes, lung cancer, COPD and overweight-related illnesses. What do you propose we do about people who chose this lifestlye?
Smoking and weed is completely legal and in some cases, encouraged. Weed is now legal in many places. Some of our “betters” are even suggesting all drug use be legalized!! Our food supply is 75% poisoned by processing, dyes, and preservatives and sugars.

2. Some people will not work, even if they are healthy. Come down to my place sometime and we’ll jump in my truck and I will drive you through either Wilmington or parts of Philadelphia. I will show you thousands of able-bodied, even super able-bodied men, who could kick our asses, just walking around choosing NOT to work.

“Cooperation” you say? What steps forward to “cooperation” do the people who eat/drink/smoke/drug themselves into expensive illnesses take toward a solution?
What steps forward to “cooperation” do able-bodied men refusing to work take toward a sloution?

What do you have in mind for #1 & #2 other than platitudes?

Best regards
Hay Dude/Pennsylvania

It’s true that many people have habits and lifestyles that contribute to their illnesses, but many people do experience serious illnesses and diseases due to genetic predisposition or unknown causes or accidental injuries.

 

[5030]

Yeah, SS isn't retirement... Unless you live in a tent and eat cat food.

Can you imagine living on $2500/mo?

It's possible however, you won't be buying toys or tractors or a new buggy and you will most likely living in a cardboard box, under a bridge somewhere and your 'address' will be a PO Box.

Far as HD's comment about able bodied people not wanting to work. Just cut off their free gummit money and see what happens...

I believe the 'new sheriff' in town is going to do exactly that actually.

 

[Hay Dude]

It’s true that many people have habits and lifestyles that contribute to their illnesses, but many people do experience serious illnesses and diseases due to genetic predisposition or unknown causes or accidental injuries.

If I'm not mistaken, overweight and tobacco use are the 2 leading causes of a myriad of illnesses in the country

 

[arrow]

If I'm not mistaken, overweight and tobacco use are the 2 leading causes of a myriad of illnesses in the country

you are not. They don’t want to come right out with it but sugar should be classified along the same lines as tobacco.
The stuff is in everything here.

 

[walhondingMF]

you are not. They don’t want to come right out with it but sugar should be classified along the same lines as tobacco.
The stuff is in everything here.

Should the tobacco and food production industries should be more regulated than what they are for knowingly poisoning Americans?

 

[riptides]

Should the tobacco and food production industries should be more regulated than what they are for knowingly poisoning Americans?

No more regulations......

Some government agencies perhaps can become more efficient at their analysis of food production?

As far as Americans go, well we have personal choice. So...choose wisely.

 

[walhondingMF]

No more regulations......

Some government agencies perhaps can become more efficient at their analysis of food production?

As far as Americans go, well we have personal choice. So...choose wisely.

Either the current laws/rules regulating those 2 industries or the agencies responsible are under-powered, under-funded, under-staffed.
A large portion of the American population has limited access to quality foods. Most of these people, if it were available, would not be able to afford it. Both the tobacco and now industrial food knowingly, and in some cases designed products or food, that are highly addictive.
I never started any tobacco product, but I know many people trying to quit. As far as food goes, the ingredients in many of our general consumption foods have changed drastically in the last 10-15 years. "Quality food" costs to much for many Americans.
Choices are limited.

 

[Hay Dude]

No more regulations......

Some government agencies perhaps can become more efficient at their analysis of food production?

As far as Americans go, well we have personal choice. So...choose wisely.

Funny how we have to “regulate” not having food companies poison us.

 

[jyoutz]

Funny how we have to “regulate” not having food companies poison us.

Also to not have our soil, water, and air poison us. I remember the dirty 1970s.

 

[walhondingMF]

Funny how we have to “regulate” not having food companies poison us.

Until you find a better method for me, as a normal middle-class American, stand up to corporate power then yes, I am all for regulation. Do I argue that many of the regulatory systems need overhauling, but to eliminate regulation from the government on massive companies is part of the issue.
Ask the residents of East *********...
That rail disaster was the direct result of safe regulations being removed due to heavy rail industry lobbying.
The safety protocol for the rig involved in the Gulf oil spill had polar bears in it. Copy and pasted. The dept responsible for checking that was cut by a VP that had friends in the industry.
Imagine where we would be if the clean air and clean water act were never established. And guess what, industries did, and still do, fight having to not pollute for the sake of profit.

 

[walhondingMF]

Let me know how many presidents were impeached twice.

What about the entire time he was president before he was impeached?

 

[Muhammad]

Now that tarriffs have been announced we can resume this discussion.

 

[Oldtimermich]

If you can afford a tractor now, get it. For those who don't need/want another tractor right away... kick back, relax, and watch the show. Things will iron out by this fall IMO.

 

[Camofurever1]

I guess the whole 5000 series of John Deeres are going to get a 26% price increase. India just got a whopping 26% tariff slapped on them. Deere prices have already got out of reach of the smaller farmer and they have been looking elsewhere for a better deal

 

[jyoutz]

I guess the whole 5000 series of John Deeres are going to get a 26% price increase. India just got a whopping 26% tariff slapped on them. Deere prices have already got out of reach of the smaller farmer and they have been looking elsewhere for a better deal

I don’t think there’s any compact or small utility tractor that’s mostly made in USA. So they all will be price affected by tariffs.

 

[tjandrews]

I saw a note about an article in a farming magazine with the title "Outwitting Slugs This Spring." I was kinda disappointed to see they weren't talking about politicians...

I think that once the dust settles we'll see that things won't be as rosy as the Empowered predict, nor as dire as the Loyal Opposition predicts. It'll be somewhere in the middle. I for one won't be spending any more than I have been, tariffs or no tariffs, because I don't have any more to spend. Time to awaken my carefully obtained "make do without" skills one more time.

 

[Muhammad]

At the end of the day, discretionary spending happens from income or debt. Since debt is expensive (high interest) and income isn't rising as fast as these tariff numbers, the indicators point toward sales declining when consumers just don't have the money to spend. With prices of tractors already up significantly over the past five years, adding another 20-30% should in theory hit sales hard if this actually comes to pass.

 

[Muhammad]

CNH Industrial, the company behind Case IH and New Holland equipment, has announced an immediate halt to all equipment shipments from both North American plants and European imports. This move is in response to the uncertainty surrounding upcoming tariffs and their impact on pricing.

According to CNH's official statement:

In North America, we are stopping shipments from North America plants and European imports effective today. This is a temporary move until we assess the full impact of planned tariffs on pricing. There are no impacts to production and parts shipments continue as planned. We will continue to monitor the situation.

 

[garry1p]

One of the way companies get around targeted tariffs is build in other countries, for example China building a new factory in Mexico to take advantage of low or no tariffs.
If there is across the board tariffs then that is no longer an option and I think that's the idea, build the plant here only I think there is a real risk in how the rest of the world will react.

 

[ultrarunner]

Parts are always the step child in these discussions because once the investment is made parts are necessary to maintain.

Today several friends at work were speaking about imported solar panels fearing they may have waited too long to act.

Off topic but in 1996 equipment light bulbs I needed cost $4 ea. if I bought 20 pcs. at a time.

4 years ago the price increased to $13 and 2 years later $17 and last Monday’s order $24…

The company said they expect $30 due to tariffs… made in Japan.