DarkBlack
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Looks like a shape created by someone just learning origami, during their second or third piece of paper.
Look what happened when we let the Japanese in.We're absolute idiots if we open the doors to Chinese automakers.
Like others, I never thought about it being such a smash Hit.Saw my first one a few days ago, up close, actually doing some truck stuff at the dump. Seems to me to be very similar to having an El Camino. Was a city guy with a cabin here, which made me think was someone with just too much money until two very attractive ladies spent a bit of time with him taking selfies.
Look what happened when we let the Japanese in.
Don't discount those chinese vehicles based on past experiences. See some reporting from the likes of Motortrend. Those companies also have deep roots in all things automotive.They taught U.S. automakers a lesson on initial quality and long-term reliability?
Chinese automobiles are a different breed.
Regarding EV’s..don’t be so sure about that. Lots of technical papers rank them equal or even better quality than US vehiclesChinese automobiles are a different breed.
It's the ugliest thing on the road regardless of the colorI followed another one today that was painted green. This one was similar in color as Zip System panels. It was the ugliest thing on the road because of the paint color!!!!


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I certainly agree with this. Lots of people found an El Camino or Ranchero useful and the Cyber truck is close to this.Tesla made a fundimental mistake with the cyber truck.
They went head to head with the big three. The EPA regs have forced ice powered pickups to be oversized to be legal.
This has vacated the compact pickup niche.
If Tesla went for the compact pickup niche there would be very little cometition, and it would be better suited for a daily driver. With more traditional /practical styling AND less electronic oerkill it would probably sell better to the practical crowd as well as the eco crowd.
ALSO the compact pickup would open up foreign sales, whereas the current size of the cyber truck locks it out of most markets. EG nissan navara/frontier size opens up international markets.
Tesla has missed an opertunity there.
Right above the bumper is where all the snow and slush collects up in snow country. Anywhere else would have been a better location!The one I saw yesterday was just at dark, and it had it's lights on. That was a first. I didn't realize they didn't have "headlights" but instead, it looks more like a light bar mounted on the bumper.
Good post, redman! And I agree with your argument, that they missed the better opportunity, and grabbing up the under-served smaller pickup market, for several reasons.The EPA regs have forced ice powered pickups to be oversized to be legal.
That's a lot of if's. I can't see anyone buying a CT for any reason other than ego/vanity ("Look at me. I can afford this ugly, useless vehicle and you can't...nya nya nya").Tesla made a fundimental mistake with the cyber truck.
They went head to head with the big three. The EPA regs have forced ice powered pickups to be oversized to be legal.
This has vacated the compact pickup niche.
If Tesla went for the compact pickup niche there would be very little cometition, and it would be better suited for a daily driver. With more traditional /practical styling AND less electronic oerkill it would probably sell better to the practical crowd as well as the eco crowd.
Not really. At least those two were based on existing vehicles, and were practical for someone who needed a "sort-of" truck. The CT is none of the above.I certainly agree with this. Lots of people found an El Camino or Ranchero useful and the Cyber truck is close to this.
First of all, I don't see what's so special about a toyota. Kind of mediocre trucks IMHO.As for making them smaller to compete over seas. I think Toyota has a $10,000 gasoline powered truck that they are selling everywhere that has pretty much dominated the market. Why would anybody pay more when you can have a Toyota for so little money?