Is the Cyber Truck a Flop?

[jmc]

Cybertruck owners buy it because they want to differ from the crowd. Its a lifestyle statement.
Same as the Prius 20 years ago, it just had to be styled odd so that everyone can see that its owner was saving the planet while upholding traffic in the fast lane

Yep, my stereotype of a CT fan is because it's different, and they might be just as likely to buy one if it had a ICE drivetrain.

Prius was different. Toyota was all about MPG, even to the extent of pumping the coolant into an insulated container when the engine was off in case it was restarted soon. IIRC, it had a drag coefficient lower than a Porsche 911. The weird shape was all about aerodynamics. Later, when T introduced the boxy rear version for more hauling capacity, the mileage dropped, probably from aerodynamics.

 

[Renze]

Yep, my stereotype of a CT fan is because it's different, and they might be just as likely to buy one if it had a ICE drivetrain.

Citroën fills that niche in Europe. All the odd vehicles in todays market must be killing them nowadays

 

[sd455dan]

Yep, my stereotype of a CT fan is because it's different, and they might be just as likely to buy one if it had a ICE drivetrain.

Prius was different. Toyota was all about MPG, even to the extent of pumping the coolant into an insulated container when the engine was off in case it was restarted soon. IIRC, it had a drag coefficient lower than a Porsche 911. The weird shape was all about aerodynamics. Later, when T introduced the boxy rear version for more hauling capacity, the mileage dropped, probably from aerodynamics.

Model Y is boxy but still manages a still very low .23 drag coefficient.

Had a Grand Prix W model it was the best GM had in the late 1980's with a .299

A 2024 911 Turbo S cd varies from 0.33 in Eco mode to 0.38 in Performance mode.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Model Y is boxy but still manages a still very low .23 drag coefficient.

Had a Grand Prix W model it was the best GM had in the late 1980's with a .299

A 2024 911 Turbo S cd varies from 0.33 in Eco mode to 0.38 in Performance mode.

The Cyber truck brand Halo effect introducing the 48 volt architect to the EV industry should be helpful as legacy Auto continues to rip out ICE production lines to install EV production like the Bolt revival.

I hope the rebate or whatever you want to call it for EVS is withdrawn since it has not developed any competitor in the USA against Tesla. The EU plan to continue phasing out ICE production should be good for profitable EV makers. I expect things will shake out by 2050 as legacy ICE makers continue to inflate ICE vehicles out of the price range of the general public the doors to Chinese EVs may swing wide open by 2036.

 

[Paystar]

Yep, LOL

 

[5030]

Only racoon around here is a deceased one...

 

[tacticalturnip]

We're absolute idiots if we open the doors to Chinese automakers.

 

[Paystar]

We're absolute idiots if we open the doors to Chinese automakers.

Well one good thing about it, is it might bring North American automakers back to reality.
I listened to a program about the one Chinese EV that is selling in Canada and they were saying even if there is a tariff put on it, it will still be $17,000 cheaper than the cheapest NA auto.
So the NA automakers got one and sent it to an independent firm to disassemble it and inspect and they said it was better built and better quality than their home grown autos.

 

[Paystar]

Just like my Chinese CF Moto SxS.....I'm gunna buy from whoever is not ripping me off.

 

[Renze]

Well one good thing about it, is it might bring North American automakers back to reality.

The reality is that China has played chess better, and is sitting on 80% of the rare earth minerals required for the green wet dream, either within its own territory, or by debt trap diplomacy in Africa.
Thats also why VW is in rough weather right now... Western manufacturers just cant get the commodities for a competitive cost price.