Portuguese Farmer
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Pros and cons on these, thanks in advance.
Rear Blade Dozer blade/polisher
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Panik
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It would probably helps folks a great deal in answering your question if you provided some details. A great deal of their functionality depends on:
- Tractor size/weight
- size of the blade your considering
- soil conditions (clay/sand/loam/rock content)
- Intended projects/use
While it’s not the same implement I use a heavy duty angle adjustable 60” rock/York rake in much the same way as a rear blade.
I used the rake with a bx2360 to maintain my shop road as well as create drainage ditches, create large retention swales & rough clean/grade land.
That said even with loaded tires & 150-200lbs of homemade suitcase weights on the rake there are dry times of the year that the rocky clay soil on my ridge is so hard as to be entirely unworkable with the rake unless I use a subsoiler to seriously break up the soil first.
- Tractor size/weight
- size of the blade your considering
- soil conditions (clay/sand/loam/rock content)
- Intended projects/use
While it’s not the same implement I use a heavy duty angle adjustable 60” rock/York rake in much the same way as a rear blade.
I used the rake with a bx2360 to maintain my shop road as well as create drainage ditches, create large retention swales & rough clean/grade land.
That said even with loaded tires & 150-200lbs of homemade suitcase weights on the rake there are dry times of the year that the rocky clay soil on my ridge is so hard as to be entirely unworkable with the rake unless I use a subsoiler to seriously break up the soil first.
John0829
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Only being able to see the one side of it it looks to me like it is a very light duty blade and IMHO would be very easy to bend. I have seen other blades without bracing on the back end bowed like a rainbow. I know I own one that I spent a fair bit of time welding on, not only the blade but also the pivot point. Not sure how or why mine bent because most of its use then and now is moving snow when and if we have any. I think light scraping/moving of loose materials would be its limited use.
OP
Portuguese Farmer
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Thanks, the back has gussets/bracing and it shows 15mm thick on the board itself.
Looks like a really thin POS..and is prob priced as such.
I had a tractor supply version of this and after the first use saw it bending. Sold it that month. I now use a cat1-2 rear blade. Way more bracing, more offset and way heavier. I looked on marketplace and got it for $400.
I had a tractor supply version of this and after the first use saw it bending. Sold it that month. I now use a cat1-2 rear blade. Way more bracing, more offset and way heavier. I looked on marketplace and got it for $400.
IndyIan
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One that doesn't angle or reverse seems fairly useless.... Don't get that one unless you need metal for welding project...
I have a light duty 7' blade(400lbs?) and its great for snow, because its mostly useless on hard packed gravel, so it doesn't dig into my driveway when pushing snow. It can sort of ditch when angled right, but I prefer my HD box blade for that too. The 100lbs+ per foot rear blades seem to be great for maintaining gravel roads.
I have a light duty 7' blade(400lbs?) and its great for snow, because its mostly useless on hard packed gravel, so it doesn't dig into my driveway when pushing snow. It can sort of ditch when angled right, but I prefer my HD box blade for that too. The 100lbs+ per foot rear blades seem to be great for maintaining gravel roads.
ptsg
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Zeppelin Maquinaria is a Spanish company that builds various implements in house. They aren't known for building bad implements.
This blade is a light duty blade that spins 360 degrees with various holes to pin in place. It's also made for small tractors, like SCUTs and similar. I believe they rate it to 15 to 25HP, but that's not a good indicator in this case, since there are relatively big tractors with 25 hp these days.
For the tractor the OP lists, which is a bit smaller and lighter than mine, I would want something stronger, but in reality, it really dependes on the work it will do.
This blade is a light duty blade that spins 360 degrees with various holes to pin in place. It's also made for small tractors, like SCUTs and similar. I believe they rate it to 15 to 25HP, but that's not a good indicator in this case, since there are relatively big tractors with 25 hp these days.
For the tractor the OP lists, which is a bit smaller and lighter than mine, I would want something stronger, but in reality, it really dependes on the work it will do.
IndyIan
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One like that will move loose gravel or dirt alright, or snow. It could maybe ditch a bit, but if it hooks a root or big rock on a 3000lbs tractor, it might start bending as its a long lever from the corner of the blade to the pivot? If I never got snow, I would sell my light duty one, my heavy boxblade does everything better(except snow!).
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Cycledude
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That definitely ain’t no dozer blade ! I have no idea what the term polisher has to do with your question.
It appears to be built way to light for most rear blade projects
It appears to be built way to light for most rear blade projects
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Portuguese Farmer
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They are called polisher here in EU, yes it's light, I was using the picture for an example to find out how they work.
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Thanks for your reply, I had kind of suspected the difference in countries might be the reason for the different words.
Whatever you choose to buy I hope it winds up working great.
Whatever you choose to buy I hope it winds up working great.
ning
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I know it *says* it's 15mm thick, but
I can't quite believe it. I'd go with 10mm max.
Product link: SUPER LIGHT TRACTOR POLIDOZERS - Zeppelin Maquinaria
The unit which states it's for 18-25HP is 1.2m wide (4') and weighs 70kg. Super light.
I can't quite believe it. I'd go with 10mm max.
Product link: SUPER LIGHT TRACTOR POLIDOZERS - Zeppelin Maquinaria
The unit which states it's for 18-25HP is 1.2m wide (4') and weighs 70kg. Super light.
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Portuguese Farmer
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Shows 1.2-1.8 for a guide on my HP, the picture was used for reference only.....
ning
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The 1.8 is 84kg, which tells me that the increase is almost all in the blade and not the rest of the structure.
I suppose if you're polishing already-loose dirt it may work. I think if you were using it and it caught on a root or mostly-buried rock it would bend.
There's also a 1.8 (ESPOL2550Z) which is 240kg, which honestly doesn't sound heavy-duty either, but it's at least normal-light-duty.
OP
Portuguese Farmer
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Yep, found a heavy one that articulates in two places, Italian made, looks as though the heavy ones even bend....
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John0829
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Here is what I did to my cheap blade after it started to bow.
oosik
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My first rear blade - Land Pride - on my first tractor - Ford 1700 - was just to light to do any real dirt work. It weighed around 300 pounds. It was great for snow removal.
In 2009 I upgraded to a brand new Kubota M6040. I got a Rhino 950 rear blade. Eight feet and 1050 pounds. This one does some real dirt work.
In 2009 I upgraded to a brand new Kubota M6040. I got a Rhino 950 rear blade. Eight feet and 1050 pounds. This one does some real dirt work.
dodge man
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I had a Kubota BX with a 5 foot wide blade and now have a John Deere 2025r with a 6 foot blade. The 5 foot blade on the BX was sturdy enough but the tractor and blade were to light to do much serious work. The 7 foot blade on the JD works much better just because if the extra weight of the blade and tractor.
BackRoad
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Three considerations if the OP's question is how do they work:
A heavier weighted back blade is more efficient for working dirt than a lighter one. There is typically no down pressure applied by a 3 point hitch, so increasing the weight of the implement is critical for ground engagement. You might find ways to add weight after the fact, but that can negatively affect a lighter built implement.
Depending on the intended use, being able to angle the main beam side to side at the 3 point hitch end adds considerably to the tool's functionality.
Third point is sizing the blade to your tractor. Generally, people recommend going as large and heavy as possible based on your tractor specs. A too large and heavy of a blade loaded with spoils can stop your movement if it exceeds the weight and power of your tractor. An undersized blade is better used as a garden decoration or boat anchor.
A heavier weighted back blade is more efficient for working dirt than a lighter one. There is typically no down pressure applied by a 3 point hitch, so increasing the weight of the implement is critical for ground engagement. You might find ways to add weight after the fact, but that can negatively affect a lighter built implement.
Depending on the intended use, being able to angle the main beam side to side at the 3 point hitch end adds considerably to the tool's functionality.
Third point is sizing the blade to your tractor. Generally, people recommend going as large and heavy as possible based on your tractor specs. A too large and heavy of a blade loaded with spoils can stop your movement if it exceeds the weight and power of your tractor. An undersized blade is better used as a garden decoration or boat anchor.
