where to connect to trailer

[ironman1952]

This will sound ridiculous probably I purchased a Kioti 7320 with cab last December. I also purchased a 14k tilt trailer but I have not moved it yet. :-(
I would like some advice as to chaining it down.

I dont think this came with welded on tie downs for a chain to attach to. Moving it is something I am not looking forward to.

Any and all advice is welcome. I will be purchasing grade 70 chain, 1/2" and 1/2" ratchet binders. any thoughts???

 

[4570Man]

1/2” chain is way overkill. 5/16 chain grade 70 exceeds dot standards when used correctly and 3/8 grade 70 is significantly overkill. 1/2” chain freaking sucks to drag around. Pull one chain across the frame where the brush guard bolts on the front and pull another chain across the draw bar. You might need a clevis to go through the draw bar. If you have a loader or an implement on the back those are supposed to have additional chains from the tractor.

 

[ironman1952]

Thanks I will rethink the chain size. My tractor has back tires filled and I think totally weighs about 9300
Should I use 4 short chains instead of 20' for attaching at 4 corners

 

[George2615]

Thanks I will rethink the chain size. My tractor has back tires filled and I think totally weighs about 9300
Should I use 4 short chains instead of 20' for attaching at 4 corners

I bought 5/16" 20' chains, cut them in half and added new grab hooks to the cut off ends so I have 4 chains. 2 front / 2 back like ironman said. I use ratchet binders to secure. Make sure you chain your loader and any 3 pt. implements as well.
Does your trailer have rub rails? If so you drop the chain thru and come back up and attach the binders.

 

[4570Man]

Thanks I will rethink the chain size. My tractor has back tires filled and I think totally weighs about 9300
Should I use 4 short chains instead of 20' for attaching at 4 corners

I like to do it that way because I don’t have to climb across the trailer to hook it plus the short chains are lighter but dot doesn’t require a 4 point tie down on machines under 10k pounds. Dot does require any accessories like a loader to be secured separately from the tractor.

 

[ironman1952]

even if the loader is attached to the tractor? Any suggestions for brackets for my Kioti?
Also this is probably overkill and maybe redundant but I am considering a set of bonnet tie downs just for the front tires, just an added protection. I had thought about Chalks for the front but did not like what was available.

 

[George2615]

even if the loader is attached to the tractor? Any suggestions for brackets for my Kioti?
Also this is probably overkill and maybe redundant but I am considering a set of bonnet tie downs just for the front tires, just an added protection. I had thought about Chalks for the front but did not like what was available.

Yes, even when loader is attached you need to chain or strap the bucket.
I bolted on D-rings to my front of tractor frame to hook chains thru. Also bought axle straps (pic) and a twisted clevis for tractor rear.

 

[ironman1952]

So the chain goes through the twisted clevis hook? Where did you get that?

 

[scootr]

The previous owner hauled my tractor, more than he used it. 150 hrs in 4 yrs . Anyway he had the dealer weld D rings on the bucket sides for hauling.

 

[George2615]

So the chain goes through the twisted clevis hook? Where did you get that?

Bought mine at tractor supply store but you can get them at any tractor store, Runnings, Menards or online. Search for twisted clevis.

 

[ironman1952]

Thanks for all your time and answers. I do have one additional question. I have already read the other posts on this subject but need more clarification.
Loading my tractor for tongue weight to be correct.
Trailer 22' tilt 14k Truck 2015 ram 2500 6.4 gas
Tractor Kioti rx7320 with cab loaded rear tires I think 9000 lbs

I think I will purchase a tongue weight scale about 165.00
My question Is to know the exact tongue weight with the tractor in different positions the trailer cant be hooked to the truck (Unless I am missing something that does not sound like a good idea to do that),
Is there a way to hook up the trailer to the truck, load the tractor to where I think it should be, then raise the trailer up so I can measure the tongue weight? I could then adjust back and forth until I get it right on the money. Once I do I can mark where it needs to be and that wont change unless attachments are added at some point.
So, tell me the error of my way

Sorry for the greeny questions.
The Bible says When there is no skillful direction, the people fall, But there is success through many advisers.

 

[newkiotiguy]

So the chain goes through the twisted clevis hook? Where did you get that?

A twisted shackle is a safer option than the twisted clevis. Rated at a much higher load because the pin isn't free to move around. Make sure the pin diameter is close to the size of hole in your draw bar also

 

[4570Man]

even if the loader is attached to the tractor? Any suggestions for brackets for my Kioti?
Also this is probably overkill and maybe redundant but I am considering a set of bonnet tie downs just for the front tires, just an added protection. I had thought about Chalks for the front but did not like what was available.

The chance of getting a ticket for it are pretty slim but yes they want to see securement on anything that moves separate of the machine body.

 

[4570Man]

Thanks for all your time and answers. I do have one additional question. I have already read the other posts on this subject but need more clarification.
Loading my tractor for tongue weight to be correct.
Trailer 22' tilt 14k Truck 2015 ram 2500 6.4 gas
Tractor Kioti rx7320 with cab loaded rear tires I think 9000 lbs

I think I will purchase a tongue weight scale about 165.00
My question Is to know the exact tongue weight with the tractor in different positions the trailer cant be hooked to the truck (Unless I am missing something that does not sound like a good idea to do that),
Is there a way to hook up the trailer to the truck, load the tractor to where I think it should be, then raise the trailer up so I can measure the tongue weight? I could then adjust back and forth until I get it right on the money. Once I do I can mark where it needs to be and that wont change unless attachments are added at some point.
So, tell me the error of my way

Sorry for the greeny questions.
The Bible says When there is no skillful direction, the people fall, But there is success through many advisers.

A tilt deck makes it pretty easy to know where the load balances. My tilt pivots directly centered of the axels. Just drive on until it goes down and then move forward another foot or so.

 

[ironman1952]

makes sense, Does the twisted shackle attach at the lower link of the 3 point and if so mine is a category 2 so 1 1/8 diameter cant seem to find a twisted shackle beyond 1/2" I am pretty sure I dont know what i am talking about Help

 

[nisaacs]

makes sense, Does the twisted shackle attach at the lower link of the 3 point and if so mine is a category 2 so 1 1/8 diameter cant seem to find a twisted shackle beyond 1/2" I am pretty sure I dont know what i am talking about Help

I think he is talking about this:

I would think a straight one would be fine.

Forged Twisted Clevis, Powder Coated, Black, 3/4" - Parts & Repair | Koch Industries | CAL Ranch..

 

[ptsg]

This is how they do it in my neck of the woods. Just 4 simple straps and it ain't going anywhere. (Baler is tied down too) No heavy chains to drag around or need for fancy shackles.

I often see threads where people claim that tractors don't have good tie down points or something. I don't really understand where they get that from.

 

[nisaacs]

This is how they do it in my neck of the woods. Just 4 simple straps and it ain't going anywhere. (Baler is tied down too) No heavy chains to drag around or need for fancy shackles.

I often see threads where people claim that tractors don't have good tie down points or something. I don't really understand where they get that from.

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Agreed, if it has tires you have tie downs, if the trailer has tie locations. Some trailers suck.

 

[ironman1952]

great pics and awesome info. I have been looking for bonnets for tractors and not much out there, You showed how it is done I do have one question. 1 post i read talked about the fact that having only 1 ratchet pulling in 1 direction would be an issue as pulling a trailer you have stress when your starting in one direction and stress in the other direction when you are applying the brakes.

I guess a guy could take and cut off the end and add a second ratchet so it is pulling in both directions. I like how you were able to secure the back tires as well.

I am probably over thinking this but I know myself and If I lost a load and injured or even killed someone i would not be able to live with it.

Thanks for all the input you guys are great ! Kind Regards, Joe

 

[nisaacs]

I do have one question. 1 post i read talked about the fact that having only 1 ratchet pulling in 1 direction would be an issue as pulling a trailer you have stress when your starting in one direction and stress in the other direction when you are applying the brakes.

Yes, if you look close, you will see a chain front and rear pulling both directions. Then the strap is doing the same thing.