Korean tractor dilemma

[D&D]

Ls corporate has been easy to get ahold of. Tym was a night mare. That said 3 weeks and tractor still hasnt been looked at

So you’re po’d at all Korean brands because of your one LS dealer that you chose.

 

[D&D]

All the same sub par junk

 

[tacticalturnip]

All the same sub par junk

My wife's 2019 Kia Sorento V6 has been excellent, as has my Kioti. Your generalizations aren't worth the time you're taking to type them.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

Generalizations, in general, are not true. It's just easier to make a blanket statement and avoid the complexities of reality

 

[caleb90]

So you’re po’d at all Korean brands because of your one LS dealer that you chose.

No im po'd that ive bought 2 korean tractors and they both have been junk.

 

[jyoutz]

I don’t think there’s a bad tractor brand made today. All of them have their good and a few bad models or features. I chose Kubota because they have a local dealer that provides service and stocks parts. And I don’t like the local Deere or Mahindra dealer’s operations. There are no other colors within hundreds of miles.

 

[Torvy]

I dated 2 blondes. They both broke up with me.

Blondes are the problem.

 

[MichiganIron]

Because most dealers for these korean tractors are fly by night dealers. Who are here today gone tomorrow. Cant compare what you are trying to compare

Ouch!!!...20 years and still counting.

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

I dated 2 blondes. They both broke up with me.

Blondes are the problem.

Were they both Korean?

 

[polarred21]

Because most dealers for these korean tractors are fly by night dealers. Who are here today gone tomorrow. Cant compare what you are trying to compare

And the 2 LS dealers near me keep less than 10 tractors on the lot.

 

[paulsharvey]

So, I will defend our OP, to a limited degree; regardless of our opinions, he is voting with his money, which is 100% fine.

Now, what I won't really defend is the idea that Korean stuff is junk... That's a ridiculous statement. You realize the cea0 made in the US, Europe, Canada or pick your region. Japan makes crap too. At the same time, some "crap" 3rd world places are turning out true 1st tier stuff.

 

[Torvy]

And the 2 LS dealers near me keep less than 10 tractors on the lot.

Low inventory is actually pretty smart business. Less inventory expense and they can often get units delivered in under a week. Dealers with big inventory have to make up that loss somewhere.

There's a distribution center less than an hour from my nearest TYM dealer. Not sure about LS.

 

[rScotty]

No im po'd that ive bought 2 korean tractors and they both have been junk.

I don't understand how we can help. Sounds to me like you just want to vent on what you already know.

So OK.... Yes, better quality items cost more to produce. Always. I think everyone understands why. Exceptions in pricing do exist - particularly in young companies - but without product history and experience, those newcomers are poor gambles.

I think it is also important to realize that higher tractor price doesn't guarantee quality. Companies charge whatever they can get away with. A history of reliability and quality is worth money to a company and they use that reputation to charge more. It's still a gamble, but now the odds are in your favor.

You've gotten the necessary experience the hard way. Now that you have. use it.
rScotty

 

[caleb90]

So im not just some dumb wood chuck trying to generalize korean manufacturing.

I have been in the fork lift business for the last 18yr of my life. From welding frames and uprights, doing full tear downs and repairs, fixturing and designing ect. That said i left my old company and moved half way across the country. Found another forklift company to work for as that has been my profession for most my life.

New company was bought out by a korean company some years ago. Moved most manufacturing over seas to korea and vietnam. This move is litterly destroying the company. The korean and vietnam built trucks have a 1 in 5 warranty rate. We had to add a department here at the headquarters state side just for repairing these trucks when they come in, before they go to the dealers. We currently have about 500 in a warehouse waiting for repair.

The parts thing is terrible aswell, we have to tear down trucks almost weekly to get customers parts, as korea dosnt have any or it takes months to get parts. So not only do we have a warehouse full of trucks waiting for repair. We also have a bunch of trucks half tore apart waiting on parts to be put back together. We had to wait 2 years for a drive axle just for one forklift.

So that being said, dealers are dropping our product due to parts support and quality issues. Alot of trucks failing under 500hours and alot of leaks popping up within the first 50hours.

But the owner does not seem to care, he would rather keep pumping junk out from overseas as it is cheaper to make. Soon they will be a grey market lift.

I thought that this was unique to this company on how they do business and operate. But now that i have had 2 korean built tractors. I have found that its the same crap but different companys. Yeah you might get a good one and it wont need much work, but there is a higher chance of getting a dud than with other companys.

They really dont seem to care about there customers and once the sale is done your on your own. Yall can try and defend what you want , but i do have first hand experiance on how korean companies operate. I was just hoping the risk was worth the reward

 

[jyoutz]

So, I will defend our OP, to a limited degree; regardless of our opinions, he is voting with his money, which is 100% fine.

Now, what I won't really defend is the idea that Korean stuff is junk... That's a ridiculous statement. You realize the cea0 made in the US, Europe, Canada or pick your region. Japan makes crap too. At the same time, some "crap" 3rd world places are turning out true 1st tier stuff.

I don’t think that S. Korea can be can be considered third world.

 

[Torvy]

I don’t think that S. Korea can be can be considered third world.

To be fair, I don't think he meant South Korea, per se. I read it as generic actual 3rd world country.

 

[murphy1244]

There is no helping this guy. He has a problem with S Korea cause they bought the place he works at.

 

[caleb90]

There is no helping this guy. He has a problem with S Korea cause they bought the place he works at.

Not the case, it was bought out by the koreans long before i went there.I knew this when i took the job. I could have cared less. All i care about it what they pay and the bennies. But after getting in there, its a huge difference from the old company i worked for that was 100% american made. Im just stating it seems to be a pattern

 

[paulsharvey]

To be fair, I don't think he meant South Korea, per se. I read it as generic actual 3rd world country.

This above, is what I meant.

People don't have to like it; but everything is global. The Japanese machine, had a Korean starter, assembled in Vietnam, with Chilean copper, Chinese magnets, Australian iron ore, Italian paint, using Bulgarian power, generated in a Rissian built plant, with Kazakhstan uranium.

 

[paulsharvey]

Oh crap... I do Not agree with parts of the Human Development Index, and certain high grade parts I consider a direct negative; However

#19 of 193: Republic of Korea
#20 of 193: Estados Unidos de América