Korean tractor dilemma

   / Korean tractor dilemma #161  
I prefer buying S Korean over Japanese. The S Koreans never bombed Pearl Harbor. The S Korean industrial machine is blossoming, while the Japanese industrial machine is dying. The Japanese workforce is aging, and the new generation of workers is inferior in every metric.
I wouldn't bet on Kubota declining or disappearing anytime soon, they have a good thing going for themselves!
I just liked the S. Korea design philosophy of lots of weight and capability in a CUT size, and include lots of features in the base tractor. When I looked, the equivalent size/weight Kubota was more money to start, then once you equipped it the same as the DK SE tractors, the price got way way up there... Maybe worth it if you do 5-600 hours a year for a living? I'm closer to 60-80hrs it seems, so I'm glad I kept my $10-12k working for me for the last 13 years and repairs have been a positive battery lead... The local Kioti dealer was the best of any of the colors for buying a CUT which made it an easy decision.
 
   / Korean tractor dilemma #162  
Wow, hold a grudge long? That was 83 years ago; everyone is dead. We still mad at Range Rover over the English burning the White House?
 
   / Korean tractor dilemma #163  
I prefer buying S Korean over Japanese. The S Koreans never bombed Pearl Harbor. The S Korean industrial machine is blossoming, while the Japanese industrial machine is dying. The Japanese workforce is aging, and the new generation of workers is inferior in every metric.
I remember my Dad, WW2 vet, wouldn't buy anything made by Japanese. I can sympathize especially when you include the nanjing massacres
 
   / Korean tractor dilemma #164  
Sucks on the parts. Everyone’s a parts pusher now. What happened to real mechanics. I’ve rebuilt the “ un serviceable “ many of times. Hydrostatic pumps are fairly simple actually. I did a little machine work for my friends jd skid pump. Supposed to be a total pump replacement according to jd. We pulled the numbers from the pump , got the pump mfg. Got all the parts from them for around $1200 vs the $5800 complete pump. Couple hours later the other machinist friend had it back together.

Now I have heard of people having better luck getting a hold of ls corporate side over here about warranty /time issues.
 
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Ls corporate has been easy to get ahold of. Tym was a night mare. That said 3 weeks and tractor still hasnt been looked at
 
   / Korean tractor dilemma #166  
So im 2 for 2 on korea tractors being lemons. Tym first and had issues right at 9hr, wanted a bigger tractor and the tym put a bad taste in my mouth. So i went with ls the second time around, this one made it 49hr before going back to the dealer. The ls will have to be split and i expect for it to be gone 3 months at the least as it needs a new hst pump. I could keep it, but im the type of person that when a piece of equipment or vehicle fails that bad or needs that much work. I would never trust it and would continue to have resentment over it. So that being said i will most likly sell when i get it back and buy new. I really like how the korean tractors get you more for the money, and they really do out pace kubota john deere and massey in the loader department. But im really getting tired of messing with them due to subpar quality. Do i try for lucky #3 and get a kioti to replace the ls , or do i buy a used kubota or massey and live with the weaker loaders and deal with the crappy loader joy stick location?
Don't buy Kioti! Too many problems to list.....but I'll post a picture of broken welds on the stabilizer bars of my RX6010 Cab. Resail is terrible and there's a reason why. Stick with Kubota or Deere.
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   / Korean tractor dilemma #167  
It’s all been a gamble. Neighbors had his deer 3e series at the dealer for a few hydraulics problems. We had a old Kioti from 89 that lived a insanely hard life up until about 3 years ago it got a low compression cylinder. My LS mt5 has almost 400 hours now of heavy use with a 7’ hd tiller , 3-4 bottom trailer plow , 10’ disc. It’s only had one issue and that was a crank sensor.
 
   / Korean tractor dilemma #168  
Don’t go by brand.
I deal with Mahindras but experience industry wide situations.
In my experience, Kubota is the best built tractor but incrementally.
They have a problem in my mind with the use of smaller ring gears in their home owner models and have a penchant of placing their tie rods in front of their axles on these as well as a threadle hydro pedal engagement l dislike but other than that, l like most everything else.
Their dealers can be uppity and arrogant which leads me to what in my mind is the most important issue….the dealer.
Check on their service department. Are they overwhelmed because of lack of help? Bad attitude because of low pay?
How is the moral there? Is the place bustling with customers?
Do they have a successful history and have been established? Are they close by?
I don’t care what the brand, when something goes wrong, you want excellent service and support and if a dealer has been ther awhile, that is a good telltale you’ll receive the same.
If we know a fix is going to need extended time, we offer the customer a loaner tractor.
If you’re going to switch, switch a dealer and not necessarily a brand even though the two may go hand and hand.
 
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   / Korean tractor dilemma #169  
I prefer buying S Korean over Japanese. The S Koreans never bombed Pearl Harbor. The S Korean industrial machine is blossoming, while the Japanese industrial machine is dying. The Japanese workforce is aging, and the new generation of workers is inferior in every metric.
What is your proof of the Japanese worker inferiority?
 
   / Korean tractor dilemma #170  
Ls corporate has been easy to get ahold of. Tym was a night mare. That said 3 weeks and tractor still hasnt been looked at
Why would you need to contact the corporate offices of any OEM? Do you call Ford or Chevy when your car breaks down?

The dealer is your contact. If you have problems with the dealer, try another dealer and get the regional guy from the OEM.
 

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