An EV??????`

[Too many Kubotas]

I have to keep repeating it because people, like yourself, keep spreading misinformation. I could care less whether you own an EV but maybe someone who is contemplating buying one might be influenced by your misinformation.

Every time I fuel my truck with diesel I pause a bit to make sure I'm not putting in regular gas. Those with with the DEF fluid have to worry about putting DEF fluid in the diesel tank. Those are built in problems.

Please list whatever kind of misinformation I have posted. Or at least one example.

I wouldn't exactly call having to actually think and not put gas in a diesel tank, or DEF in a diesel tank, "built in problems". They are certainly not built into the vehicle. Nothing is completely idiot proof.

 

[tradosaurus]

Please list whatever kind of misinformation I have posted. Or at least one example.

I wouldn't exactly call having to actually think and not put gas in a diesel tank, or DEF in a diesel tank, "built in problems". They are certainly not built into the vehicle. Nothing is completely idiot proof.

Well, the EV house of cards seems to be crumbling as it is. Remove the subsidies and it would really speed up the process.

Define "crumbling". Removing subsidies would not "speed up" the crumbling process and you have no proof.

Tesla didn't have subsidies for a few years and still sold their product. The Model Y is the most popular car in the world!

It's obvious you wish to see the EV market disappear for whatever reason. No one is forcing you to buy one so I don't see your infatuation with it.

 

[wawajake]

Define "crumbling". Removing subsidies would not "speed up" the crumbling process and you have no proof.

Tesla didn't have subsidies for a few years and still sold their product. The Model Y is the most popular car in the world!

It's obvious you wish to see the EV market disappear for whatever reason. No one is forcing you to buy one so I don't see your infatuation with it.

Ah but Governments around the world are forcing us with mandates , and forcing ICE manufacturers with mileage mpg requirements so thus forcing them to not long termplan for engineering of ICE ( so forcing even if mandates delayed) that is NOT missinformation.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

Define "crumbling". Removing subsidies would not "speed up" the crumbling process and you have no proof.

Tesla didn't have subsidies for a few years and still sold their product. The Model Y is the most popular car in the world!

It's obvious you wish to see the EV market disappear for whatever reason. No one is forcing you to buy one so I don't see your infatuation with it.

Well, Ford and GM are delaying production of EVs, at least one proposed battery plant has been put on hold (maybe shelved for good, I don't remember).

Those are common sense actions if EVs aren't selling like some thought they would.

Common sense would also suggest that a higher price (no subsidies) would slow the sales down.

Maybe I'm relying too much on common sense, but it does keep me from putting gasoline in a diesel. Which is helpful.

By the way. Haven't verified it, but supposedly the Corolla is the most popular car in the world, not a Tesla. Which makes sense.

 

[dougtrr2]

Amazing (or sad). A thread starts with one picture of a car on fire at a gas station, title of EV? and it goes on for 27 pages arguing about electric vehicles.

Maybe we should have a forum of just EV "discussions" to clear the rest of the forums.

Doug in SW IA

 

[tradosaurus]

Well, Ford and GM are delaying production of EVs, at least one proposed battery plant has been put on hold (maybe shelved for good, I don't remember).
Those are common sense actions if EVs aren't selling like some thought they would.
Common sense would also suggest that a higher price (no subsidies) would slow the sales down.
Maybe I'm relying too much on common sense, but it does keep me from putting gasoline in a diesel. Which is helpful.
By the way. Haven't verified it, but supposedly the Corolla is the most popular car in the world, not a Tesla. Which makes sense.

You are so infatuated with Tesla and wishing for the companies demise that you can't even do a simple Google search that disproves your statement bolded above.

Model Y as of end of 2023.

You just asked "Please list whatever kind of misinformation I have posted. Or at least one example."
And then proceed to post misinformation. Got to love this forum!

 

[tradosaurus]

Amazing (or sad). A thread starts with one picture of a car on fire at a gas station, title of EV? and it goes on for 27 pages arguing about electric vehicles.
Maybe we should have a forum of just EV "discussions" to clear the rest of the forums.

Doug in SW IA

Hmmmmm. Title of thread is "EV????" and we start discussing EV's. Who would have ever thought?

 

[tradosaurus]

You don’t get it do you. My point being I didn’t have to stop in Ft Smith, didn’t have to charge arriving in OkCity, I didn’t have to charge again coming back through Ft Smith, I didn’t have to charge when I got home. Hell I ran errands after getting back home to the store and bank. I finally filled up again the day after getting home.

You don't get it do you? Let me restate what you posted. I've bolded the critical statements for your assistance.

Last week 4 of us drove from Quitman Ar to OK city, in an F150, 364 miles. Found our hotel then went to eat, then to a museum, then drove to the Fed bldg memorial then back to the room. Next day drove to eat, then to another museum, then to another place to eat. Next day drove to Edmond Ok to the Biblical museum then back to OK city. Finally had to fill up and drove back home. Could an EV have done that, I think not. By the way never saw a charging station anywhere, none on the interstate going there or back, none at the hotel either.

"Could an EV have done that?"

Yes and EV (Tesla) could have done that. Now whether you want to do that is a different matter. I was just clearing more misinformation about the abilities of an EV that are spread by non-EV owners.

 

[DarkBlack]

The Model Y is the most popular car in the world!

You fabricated a silly conclusion.
Single year sales numbers restricted to company that only makes a couple different models, bolstered by government mandates…doesn't make a vehicle “the most popular “

 

[Too many Kubotas]

You are so infatuated with Tesla and wishing for the companies demise that you can't even do a simple Google search that disproves your statement bolded above.

Model Y as of end of 2023.

You just asked "Please list whatever kind of misinformation I have posted. Or at least one example."
And then proceed to post misinformation. Got to love this forum!

I did indeed do exactly that, and found that while the Tesla was the best selling vehicle in '23, the Corolla is the most popular car. There is a difference, or we could pick a year to our liking, making the Model T the most popular car, for example.

And speaking of misinformation, you have decided that I want EVs to go away, and apparently Tesla in particular. Please note that in reality I have tried (unsuccessfully) to point out that an EV simply isn't usable for me.

If others want to have one, that's not my problem and is fine with me. As long as they don't crash our local delicate power system. Heck, I could even benefit from it if helping the tow yard pluck the stranded ones off of the road sides.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

Maybe it's time for a reality check? Saw this one the other day.

"WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Seven percent of Americans, up from 4% a year ago, report that they own an electric vehicle. That increase is matched by an equal decline in the percentage saying they are seriously considering buying one, from 12% to 9%.

Meanwhile, fewer Americans -- 35%, down from 43% in 2023 -- say they might consider buying an EV in the future. Thus, even as some people have moved ahead with their intent to buy an EV in the past year, public demand for the cars has contracted."

That's in stark contrast to going from a current 4% amount of EVs in the state to a whopping 43%...in just two years. Which is what the New Mexico governor has decided will be a good thing.

Guess that's one result of them making weed legal. A complete disconnect between dreams and reality.

 

[wawajake]

Careful "too many kubotas" you don't want to overwhelm Trad with facts, that will take him 4 hrs of stressful google search to manipulate the statistics. We don't need a cardiac arrest blamed on ICE

 

[wawajake]

Same story is happening in Canada . This was in this morning's national newspaper the Financial Post. Explaining how the rich early adopter demographic with garage and charger infrastructure, is about done. And real world infrastructure needs for more chargers for rest of the population is not nearly happening ( for various reasons ) 'Tall order to ask the average Canadian': EVs are twice as hard to sell today

 

[Eagle1]

Plug-In Nightmare: Tesla Owners Wait Hours to Charge Electric Vehicles After Eclipse

I guess not all Tesla users are doing it right by only charging at home. One arrived at the only nearby charging station with 1 mile range left.

 

[sd455dan]

Plug-In Nightmare: Tesla Owners Wait Hours to Charge Electric Vehicles After Eclipse

I guess not all Tesla users are doing it right by only charging at home. One arrived at the only nearby charging station with 1 mile range left.

It takes some planning with an EV.

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-supercharging-during-solar-eclipse.313554/

 

[Eagle1]

Yup real easy for the people that have to run to a store for every meal.....
Guess there were at least 180 some, that failed the planning stage.

 

[tradosaurus]

Plug-In Nightmare: Tesla Owners Wait Hours to Charge Electric Vehicles After Eclipse

I guess not all Tesla users are doing it right by only charging at home. One arrived at the only nearby charging station with 1 mile range left.

Quite a bit of information missing, as usual.
1) The article doesn't say how far the driver they used for the story traveled. Wakefield, Mass to somewhere in Vermont. Could have been 110 miles or could have been 200 miles.
2) There are 8 supercharger stations in Vermont. Were all the superchargers packed?
3) What was the state of charge that the driver used in the article left his house?
4) Did the Tesla navigation not know the specific supercharger had a long wait?

I made a 700 mile round trip to Austin last year in our Tesla without any issues.
In one of the pictures in the article, people were wearing masks outdoors so that right indicated a lack of common sense.

 

[Eagle1]

I will say that in my younger years it was not uncommon to drive 2 or 3 hours to a beach for sunrise or sunset with no planning (lived near both coasts over years.). Just seemed like a good idea after a few drinks. Or jump on motorcycle with a change of clothes and head for a long weekend. Did have to buy some fuel from some random couple in utah once. My bike just could not do 410 miles over mountains on one tank, and that was with me filling up at the last gas station before the dry zone back then.

So even planning can get you high and dry.

 

[Eagle1]

Quite a bit of information missing, as usual.
1) The article doesn't say how far the driver they used for the story traveled. Wakefield, Mass to somewhere in Vermont. Could have been 110 miles or could have been 200 miles.
2) There are 8 supercharger stations in Vermont. Were all the superchargers packed?
3) What was the state of charge that the driver used in the article left his house?
4) Did the Tesla navigation not know the specific supercharger had a long wait?

I made a 700 mile round trip to Austin last year in our Tesla without any issues.
In one of the pictures in the article, people were wearing masks outdoors so that right indicated a lack of common sense.

At least 180+ EV at that charging station.... so not a one off failure to plan. Many failures to plan.

 

[CliffordK]

Plug-In Nightmare: Tesla Owners Wait Hours to Charge Electric Vehicles After Eclipse

I guess not all Tesla users are doing it right by only charging at home. One arrived at the only nearby charging station with 1 mile range left.

I skipped the last eclipse... to far away.

However, for the last one I rode my bicycle from Eugene OR to Albany OR. The traffic wasn't too bad in the morning, but moments after the eclipse it was just MISERABLE. The freeway became a parking lot, and the back roads where I was riding were just hammered with traffic. I should have jumped onto the freeway and passed all the cars that were going nowhere, of course sucking exhaust fumes isn't my favorite thing to do.

My guess is the East Coast was far worse with more people. The Tesla drivers that planned ahead likely did fine. Drive up the day before. Charge up, view the eclipse. Then go home.

Those that drove up, watched the eclipse, then headed to recharge likely were the ones waiting.

Were any local gas stations also overwhelmed? Did any run out of gas?