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[Eagle1]

Most people travel less than 50 miles per day and charge at home...Right?

 

[tradosaurus]

Most people travel less than 50 miles per day and charge at home...Right?

Most people tow at least 10,000 lbs within 50 miles? Why are you being so obtuse?

 

[Eagle1]

Because that is your statement every time someone professes range anxiety. I frequently tow hay or cattle locally or I may need to go several hundred miles.
I guess an EV is not one size fits all.

I think Teslas (and others) are serious machines but they do not fit my lifestyle any more than an AC Cobra or GT40 would work for me.

 

[tradosaurus]

Because that is your statement every time someone professes range anxiety. I frequently tow hay or cattle locally or I may need to go several hundred miles.
I guess an EV is not one size fits all.

I think Teslas (and others) are serious machines but they do not fit my lifestyle any more than an AC Cobra or GT40 would work for me.

You only have one vehicle?
The point being you could replace one of your vehicles with an EV.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

Tesla makes a semi truck, and several other brands are breaking into the market. Probably not what you're interested in, but the EVs are far more than just little golf carts.

There's apparently a company (Crisco?) that has several of those Tesla tractors.
But if memory serves me, they are limited to an 80 mile radius.

In contrast, even my '80 Pete 359 would go about 2,000 miles, and it didn't have the largest tanks available.

 

[bmg88201]

Last week 4 of us drove from Quitman Ar to OK city, in an F150, 364 miles. Found our hotel then went to eat, then to a museum, then drove to the Fed bldg memorial then back to the room. Next day drove to eat, then to another museum, then to another place to eat. Next day drove to Edmond Ok to the Biblical museum then back to OK city. Finally had to fill up and drove back home. Could an EV have done that, I think not. By the way never saw a charging station anywhere, none on the interstate going there or back, none at the hotel either.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

The only "facts" that are true is "battery packs are expensive to replace". That would also be true for a new diesel engine on my truck if mine implodes because of bad fuel so the point is moot.

Any posts from non EV owners should be qualified with "not an EV owner so my opinion is based on emotion".

As an owner of seven diesel vehicles (not counting tractors and such) I may be qualified enough to point out that diesels can't "implode".

They can be made to explode, but not from bad fuel.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

I keep hearing about the high insurance rates for EV’s and that some insurers won’t write a policy for EV’s. Is this true and what is the comparison for insurance costs for ICE and an EV.

Trying to determine if your sources of hearing this information is from EV owners or not EV owners!

Age and number of DWI's can be huge pricing variables. Some carriers find insuring catalytic converters a pain in the pocketbook.

Full coverage with $500 deductible on our farm policy at age 73.

2010 Subaru Forester Base
$955 annually

2023 Tesla Model Y dual motor long range
$1115 annually

 

[tradosaurus]

As an owner of seven diesel vehicles (not counting tractors and such) I may be qualified enough to point out that diesels can't "implode".

They can be made to explode, but not from bad fuel.

If the fuel pump disintegrates your diesel engine is toast. Look up the CP4 fuel protection kit.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

2010 Subaru Forester Base
$955 annually

Ouch. That's about the same as I pay for the '18 Challenger, which has a bit more power and is popular with thieves. But, a $1,000 deductible.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

If the fuel pump disintegrates your diesel engine is toast. Look up the CP4 fuel protection kit.

That's why the CP4s are being replaced with CP3 pumps by so many, including Ram itself.

It's a bad design, and Ram only used it for a couple of years before realizing its mistake.

 

[tradosaurus]

Last week 4 of us drove from Quitman Ar to OK city, in an F150, 364 miles. Found our hotel then went to eat, then to a museum, then drove to the Fed bldg memorial then back to the room. Next day drove to eat, then to another museum, then to another place to eat. Next day drove to Edmond Ok to the Biblical museum then back to OK city. Finally had to fill up and drove back home. Could an EV have done that, I think not. By the way never saw a charging station anywhere, none on the interstate going there or back, none at the hotel either.

You could make that trip with a Tesla. Charge in Ft. Smith, Ar and then 180 miles to Oklahoma City to charge again.
A simple google search of superchargers in Arkansas and Oklahoma will show you.

 

[tradosaurus]

That's why the CP4s are being replaced with CP3 pumps by so many, including Ram itself.

It's a bad design, and Ram only used it for a couple of years before realizing its mistake.

That's good if you have a newer diesel truck but mine is 2014 F250. Does your diesel engine have an 8 year/120,000 mile warranty? Doubt it.
Point still remains. A diesel engine could need replacing just as an EV battery could need replacing. Lot of IFS.
When you own an EV come back and talk with actual first hand knowledge.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

1 minutes run time.

 

[Too many Kubotas]

That's good if you have a newer diesel truck but mine is 2014 F250. Does your diesel engine have an 8 year/120,000 mile warranty? Doubt it.
Point still remains. A diesel engine could need replacing just as an EV battery could need replacing. Lot of IFS.
When you own an EV come back and talk with actual first hand knowledge.

I have never worried about warranties as I don't want others to work on my vehicles, so I don't know what time or mileage they cover. If I did worry about it, I'd get extended warranties.

And maybe I'm alowed a tiny bit of input here if I admit that I own a John Deere eGator? It never leaves the property, so worst case would be that I had to walk half a mile.

 

[wawajake]

That's good if you have a newer diesel truck but mine is 2014 F250. Does your diesel engine have an 8 year/120,000 mile warranty? Doubt it.
Point still remains. A diesel engine could need replacing just as an EV battery could need replacing. Lot of IFS.
When you own an EV come back and talk with actual first hand knowledge.

eww bending the truth again Trad your Tesla warranty is now becoming clear on Tesla owners sites they probably only will replace it with a 70% capable battery, so refurbished will be lower mile capable range, meanwhile put a refurbished diesel engine in and the range is same as the one it replaced...... hmmmm but I am on his ignore list because the truth on various Tesla owner websites and the various problems owners are seeing , conflicts with his exaggerations and he prefers to overlook those truths.

 

[bmg88201]

You could make that trip with a Tesla. Charge in Ft. Smith, Ar and then 180 miles to Oklahoma City to charge again.
A simple google search of superchargers in Arkansas and Oklahoma will show you.

You don’t get it do you. My point being I didn’t have to stop in Ft Smith, didn’t have to charge arriving in OkCity, I didn’t have to charge again coming back through Ft Smith, I didn’t have to charge when I got home. Hell I ran errands after getting back home to the store and bank. I finally filled up again the day after getting home.

 

[Fuddyduddy1952]

Trad will soon ignore everyone except Elon.
I was thinking and verified by looking it up superchargers shorten the battery life. Home overnight charging gives the most life.
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Uh-oh!... Wait for it!

 

[Too many Kubotas]

When you own an EV come back and talk with actual first hand knowledge.

This thinking is still baffling to me.

Do I really need to go buy an EV, trailer it home (since I know it won't make it on its own) just to be able to partake in the discussion?

Yes, it could be used to go to the post office, the nearest voting place, and the gravel pit. And the neighbors, of course. Basically, maybe 50 miles per year.

That'd be a very expensive way to have a voice that's apparently not covered by the First Amendment in your world.

 

[Eagle1]

You only have one vehicle?
The point being you could replace on of your vehicles with an EV.

Why? there is NO functionality a smaller vehicle would provide for me. The most used vehicle is a 2005 Durango that hauls everything in one shot. Wife goes to town, animal swaps, etc and unless it needs trailer she can haul it in the big cargo space. Next would the hemi powered Magnum almost as much space but a bit faster. We don't commute, do not go to the store every day, unless I'm running through a bunch of diesel on a project. No vacation trips in almost 20 years, I am happier here than any place else I've ever been and I traveled a lot. Beside I barely trust my kids to take care of my critter when I'm gone for a day.
Truck hauls trash on busy weekends or hay.
99% of my vehicle needs are met by one of the quads or one of the tractors. I see all the flats the city folks get with their rubberband tires on these here roads and I'll stick with good LT and AT tires, not an option when buying a Tesla.